Terada Katsuya

Join us as we go behind the scenes of manga creation with world-famous artist Terada Katsuya as he works on the highly anticipated full-color entry in his Saiyuki Daienou series.

Conversation between Urasawa Naoki and Terada Katsuya
Up-close look at Terada Katsuya's creation process!
Terada Katsuya at work
Creation using digital technologies
Creepy yet charming characters

Transcript

00:09

You know how it's fun to sing when you get drunk?

00:14

I feel that way about Terada.

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For him, drawing is more of an inherent act

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instead of a fun activity.

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Like breathing.

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Manga - where drama is created with just the tip of a pen.

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In this program, we take you behind the scenes of where manga is made and explore the craft.

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The idea came from Urasawa Naoki.

01:28

The famous manga artist has released hits in a variety of genres.

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Our guest is Terada Katsuya, a successful manga artist and illustrator.

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His art is truly one-of-a-kind.

01:54

One look and you won't be able to forget Terada's unique worlds and intricate linework.

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Many books with his illustrations and sketches have been published.

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Numerous authors and filmmakers have fallen in love with Terada's art.

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Terada is most known for designing video game characters.

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A lot of his fans are outside of Japan.

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To many fans, Terada is known as the "Rakuga-King,"

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a mix of the Japanese word for doodle, rakugaki, and king.

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The moments I love drawing the most are when I feel completely free to doodle.

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I try to fill my work with as many of those moments as possible.

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One of the works Terada is famous for is Saiyukiden Daienou.

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It's an adaptation of the classic Chinese novel known as Journey to the West in English speaking countries.

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The story follows Goku and his group.

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As they travel, a variety of monsters get in their way.

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The full-color action is a perfect example of the worlds Terada creates.

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Although the series has already finished its serialized run,

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the third and final volume has been unreleased for over 10 years.

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Fans around the world have been waiting to find out what's next.

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Surprisingly, our program pushed Terada to get back to work,

04:02

and he let us film him work on Daienou.

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The conversation takes place in an area Terada has lived for over 20 years.

04:22

Hello everyone.

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I'm sure you all have doodled before.

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That's how most manga artists begin.

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Our guest today is an artist who has been doodling for decades.

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Fans worldwide consider him one of the most skilled artists around.

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He's known as "Rakuga-King" for a reason.

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Let's go greet the king.

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I see him daily, by the way.

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The two meet at a gyoza restaurant Terada frequents.

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Drinking already?

05:13

Not at all.

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No drinks here.

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We're going sober today.

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I'm looking forward to a relaxed talk.

05:21

Me, too.

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The two move to the back of the restaurant.

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Urasawa and Terada have over 10 years of history together, so they have much to discuss.

05:42

Terada works in a quiet residential area.

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We placed four cameras in his workspace-

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-making sure to not disturb his process.

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Terada has worked with digital tools for over 20 years.

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He uses an ordinary tablet.

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The pen has a grip used for pencil training.

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Terada says the grip makes it easier for him to use the thin tablet pen.

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His workbench is a handmade drawing plate placed on top of a drawer.

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It has a very handcrafted look.

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Terada draws while standing up.

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You work standing?

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I used to sit.

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But at live art events,

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I would draw standing for eight hours straight.

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It felt better than sitting.

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Why do you wear shoes?

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The wooden floor gets cold.

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I see.

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Terada's eyes look toward the manga's script.

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Before he begins to draw, Terada writes out the story beats and lines.

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He calls this the "scriptboard."

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His focus was on this part.

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Inside the dragon, Sanzo chants a mantra, causing the dragon to break open.

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Through the gap, they see their destination, Tenjiku.

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Sagojo says, "Goku! It's Tenjiku!"

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"Whoa!!!"

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What will this look like on page?

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Do you always write a script?

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Lately, yes.

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I'm able to deceive myself with words.

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- What?
- I tend to cut corners.

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I see!

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It stops you from taking the easy road?

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Yes. I wanted to raise the bar,

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so I try to write the scriptboard

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from the perspective of a writer

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who knows nothing about drawing.

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First up, storyboarding.

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This is where Terada turns his scriptboard into imagery.

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He creates a single horizontal line and begins.

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He goes straight to drawing without any rough drafts.

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I love the sound.

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Is this a pencil tool?

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- It's a brush.
- Oh?

08:59

Yes. It's more brush-like and fades.

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This is just the draft,

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so a bit of fade feels the best to use.

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I use the pencil tool for inking.

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Terada lays down coarse brush strokes without any hesitation.

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Is this a dragon?

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It looks like the eyes are below the mouth...

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The dragon is bending in pain.

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In moments, a complex image comes together.

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Perfect. You're done.

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I agree.

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After adjusting size and position, Terada is done with the first panel in no time.

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Next, Terada draws three vertical lines.

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We finally get to see the panel layout.

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In this scene, Sagojo calls out to Goku.

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How do you decide panel layout?

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I don't think about the content.

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You just draw lines?

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I start with layouts I find interesting

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then work from there.

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I love drawing inside of panels.

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I even draw borders on illustrations.

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I know I can always redo it

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if it doesn't look good.

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I draw, and if it fits, I go with it.

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I don't have a clear vision of the end.

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I just know the direction I'm going.

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As long as the page feels right,

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I can move to the following panels.

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Who knew you could create manga panels without knowing what will be inside?

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Quite a unique way of storytelling.

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Terada revises the script as he draws.

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It looks like he'll be changing some of Sagojo's lines.

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Terada continues to work without any hesitation.

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The storyboard is complete in just 19 minutes -

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incredible speed considering Terada decides it all on the fly.

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The dragon recoils in agony as its body breaks down from Sanzo's mantra.

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Goku and the others struggle to escape the dragon's body.

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Even at this early stage, the imagery is packed with action.

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Next up is inking.

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Terada chooses to use a thick and sharp pencil tool.

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He traces over the newly complete storyboard, using it as a rough draft.

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If I'm too deliberate,

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my lines feel lifeless.

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Digital tools let me take a rough draft

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and turn it into the final product.

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That's one of the main reasons

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I work digitally.

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Terada tends to get nervous when inking images.

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Digital tools make it easy to change lines afterwards, which allows for a rougher touch to the art.

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Compared to the storyboard process, Terada works with more precision, layering lines and dots.

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Short lines and dots come together

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to make the final image.

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This is the fun part.

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I agree.

14:45

Terada starts to whistle.

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He must be having a fun time.

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The dragon's rugged look becomes more pronounced as the scales are completed.

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Terada adds clouds to the background.

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In 14 minutes, he completes inking the dragon as it recoils in pain.

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Layered lines add three-dimensionality while the clouds emphasize the dragon's massive size.

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Next up is the main character, Goku, in a scene where he finally awakens.

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Terada changes to a brush tool for this part.

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For this panel, he's going with thicker lines than usual.

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Did you make the lines thicker?

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It's the same brush tool

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I used for the storyboard.

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Perfect.

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I'm going with a graphical approach.

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Terada searches for lines that fit each panel.

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This is what makes your works special.

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You go straight for solid blacks.

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I love solids.

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It's already done in your head.

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Terada makes Goku's eyes solid black.

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He uses the brush tool without worrying about rough edges.

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I love the gums!

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Gums are great.

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With a small white spot!

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They need to look like gums.

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Being able to decide

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what something looks like is important.

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The "ability to judge."

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Different people see different things.

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And if you look under the left eye,

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you can see some extra ink.

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Probably because you moved so fast.

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But you left it in.

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Yes, why not?

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It's all about what you see as you draw.

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I think artistic talent is based on

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being able to judge what things look like.

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Your hand does the work,

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and your brain says, "Looks okay."

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And that happens instantly for you.

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That, and a lot of repetition.

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You end up building a library of tricks.

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The ability to take random lines and make them look like something to the viewer is key for Terada.

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He finishes inking this page in 45 minutes.

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Terada meticulously draws the colossal dragon with a pencil tool.

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Goku, on the other hand, is drawn with bold strokes from the brush tool.

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Comparing it to the storyboard...

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You can see how Terada's bold use of different lines creates a page full of dynamic action.

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Terada was born in 1963 as the youngest of three children.

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He has always loved to draw.

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Terada grew up reading manga by Leiji Matsumoto and Yokoyama Mitsuteru.

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In middle school, one manga blew Terada away.

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The manga was Otomo Katsuhiro's "Space Patrol Shigema."

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"Shigema" was your introduction.

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Space Patrol Shigema is one of Otomo Katsuhiro's early short stories.

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A group of young men gather at a New Year party and confess their secrets.

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The strange story ends with one friend calling a UFO from the ocean.

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Put bluntly, it was bogus.

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The ending, the storyline, the characters. Everything.

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But I'll never forget the art.

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It showed me that any manga could work with realistic art.

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"Shigema" showed me it was okay to break things down

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and view the world in your own way.

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It really saved me.

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I feel that Otomo was able to appeal directly to us and ask,

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"Have you ever seen things from this perspective?"

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Terada attended a high school for design to work on his artistic ability.

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He made his debut as an illustrator and manga artist in his early 20s.

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Readers quickly took notice of Terada's crisp artistic style.

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His unique illustrations were used in novels, helping more people discover his work.

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Terada also puts his artistic skill to full use during live drawing events.

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His artwork leaves attendees from around the world in awe.

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People always ask if I know what I'm drawing beforehand.

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And, honestly, it's hard to answer.

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Sometimes I don't.

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Sometimes it comes into view as I draw.

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It's like I'm following a map.

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At places I recognize, I move fast.

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At new locations, I take my time,

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carefully looking at the map as I go.

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One of Terada's live drawings left Urasawa speechless.

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I think it was in here.

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Got it. The longhorn beetle.

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You drew without any references?

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Right. I do it all live.

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Did you practice beforehand?

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No, but when I was young,

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it was my favorite bug.

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I see!

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I used to catch and look at them.

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Of course, there are a lot of mistakes.

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But it feels right.

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It's all about the feel.

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I think there's a skill

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for understanding structure.

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Most living things share

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a physical structure.

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I can visualize it in my mind.

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Like the exoskeleton and muscles.

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- This is very impressive.
- Really?

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When Terada sketches objects, he makes sure to observe structure.

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He uses the vast ideas he gets from these doodles to come up with characters, monsters, and other things.

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Terada is very skilled at creating things not of this world,

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which is one reason why he's hired to make character designs.

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Daienou features unique monsters that appear one after another.

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I already have a solid methodology for creating monsters.

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Once you have an idea of what to do and decide the initial settings,

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then it's just making yes/no decisions.

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Like, "Will the character's hand transform into something else?"

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That creates two paths.

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One way leads to something new.

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The other goes in a direction I already find interesting.

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It's all quite effortless.

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Basically, I have built up a visual vocabulary.

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I think that's why I'm suited for character design work.

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Especially monsters.

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Once again, back to the drawing process.

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We were able to catch Terada come up with a brand-new monster.

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In the mountains, Goku and his group encounter a friendly-looking older man.

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However, the old man turns into a monster!

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This is how it looks in the storyboard.

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Terada adds details to the rough storyboard.

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He makes sure to include the old man's physical characteristics.

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More surprising than the speed at which he works is that he improvises the process.

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Do you enjoy this part?

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This is basically my way of life.

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As natural as breathing.

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That natural?

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Completely.

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Would you say you take familiar tasks

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and make them feel brand new?

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Yes. I don't like drawing the same things.

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Even if the images are similar,

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I try to add different things.

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In this case, I made hoof-like hands.

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Things not in the storyboard.

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It's all part of how I create

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different variations of characters.

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If it doesn't feel new, it's not fun.

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I agree.

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When you draw the same things,

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you begin to lose interest.

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The young boy inside me won't allow it.

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"Drawing the same thing AGAIN!?"

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That kid is strict!

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I know.

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Worse than any editor I've ever met!

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When I draw older characters, I can hear,

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"There you go, drawing the same people."

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It's rough.

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The harshest critic.

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Terada continues to work without stopping.

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In just nine minutes, the inking process is complete.

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Starting from a very rough storyboard-

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-Terada has created a truly one-of-a-kind monster.

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Blood vessels protrude as the mouth opens wide.

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The gentle-looking old man has undergone a terrifying transformation.

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The next large panel features the mountain turning into a dragon and swallowing Goku and his group.

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Here's the storyboard.

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All you can see is the mouth.

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Terada plans for this scene to come after the old man's transformation.

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He starts with the dragon's mouth.

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Terada deliberately draws the dragon's crooked teeth one by one.

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When it comes down to it, we draw fiction.

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But they need to look convincing.

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That's right.

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Readers notice lines that lack confidence.

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But your lines are already finalized.

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You know how it will look.

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That might be the secret to your work.

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Your art shows no hesitation.

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In reality, all I do is hesitate, though.

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Terada moves on to the dragon's skin.

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It's almost as if you can reach out and feel its rugged texture.

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Next, mountains in the distance.

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Terada changes up his style a bit.

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The foreground and the background.

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And the desert.

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Yes! And the up-and-down terrain.

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- I love it.
- Just a few lines are all you need.

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Terada zooms in to draw Goku and his group being swallowed by the dragon.

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The monster from earlier is there, too, connected to the tentacles.

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Your art has crude and grotesque aspects.

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But it's never vulgar.

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Thank you!

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I apologize for being a refined human being!

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But to me, being refined or vulgar isn't the point.

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I think it's about charm.

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Closer to humor.

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It helps you create compelling characters.

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It's all about capturing the charm.

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It is very important

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that I like what I'm creating.

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Making characters like that is key.

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I agree.

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My theme.

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Terada finishes inking Sagojo being swallowed.

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It took 32 minutes to complete this large panel.

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The dragon emerges from the mountain with subtle textures and fine details.

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At the same time, Goku and his group are being humorously swallowed up.

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This two-page spread delivers a captivating visual experience full of Terada's artistic charm.

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Another artist has significantly influenced Terada's art.

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Moebius, the world-famous sci-fi cartoonist.

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His distinctive style, characterized by intricate lines and dots, has made a major impact on Japanese manga.

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When did you discover Moebius?

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It was in "SF Magazine."

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I was about 15 years old and still in middle school.

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There was a section about sci-fi art.

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One person wrote, "There's an amazing cartoonist in France."

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It was just a two-color page, but it featured art by Moebius.

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It took my breath away.

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Terada went on to buy every magazine featuring Moebius he could find.

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This image particularly left a mark.

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The character's eyes use single lines.

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They're actually the bone above the eyes.

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And the little guy playing keeper

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with a strange machine.

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I was completely sucked into that one panel.

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Plus, the linework.

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It's like I had this unspoken rule

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that lines for manga and illustrations were two different things.

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But Moebius used the same lines in both his illustrations and panel art.

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My manga felt so dull compared to my illustrations.

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But I could just use illustration lines in manga.

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That's when everything changed for me.

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Urasawa was also deeply impacted by Moebius' art as a university student.

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For me, it was "STARLOG."

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There was a small feature about Moebius.

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I saw his work and thought,

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"That's my art!"

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I knew that's where I wanted to go.

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It's not just about delicate linework.

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It's about using convincing lines

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to build substance.

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Each line comes together

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to create a truly fascinating image.

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I told Moebius directly

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that I copy his techniques.

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Me, too.

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Moebius expressed the "world" by meticulously layering detailed lines.

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Drawing inspiration from Moebius, Terada developed his own artistic style.

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Day three.

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Terada adds color to the page.

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Terada minimizes the pages he drew and arranges them across the screen.

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He begins to fill in each panel with a color.

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You first decide colors for each panel.

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That's right.

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How does Terada choose a base color for each panel?

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I choose colors to represent story beats.

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Instead of going for a realistic look,

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I aim for an expressionistic approach.

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For surprise, turn everything red.

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Light can also change colors.

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I'm always exploring what colors say

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or what emotions they evoke.

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Terada changes colors for each panel like changing lighting in a film.

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After deciding base colors, he moves on to details.

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For the panel of the old man transforming into a monster, Terada starts with purple.

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Using a brush tool that adds chalk-like texture, he gradually applies color.

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For the legs, Terada goes with a bold red.

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How does he decide to color his creations?

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Basically, there's no correct answer.

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Once I'm done, that becomes the answer.

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As the old man yells out and transforms,

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I added red to enhance the effect.

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Although he's not bleeding,

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red felt like the right emotion.

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Once I added it, I knew I was right.

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Terada loves to improvise, even with color.

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He highlights the eyes with a dangerous, yellow glow.

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And finishes with some highlights.

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White spots give the image a three-dimensional feel.

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It took Terada 22 minutes to complete this panel.

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In full color, the monster looks even more alive than before.

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While the inked image is impressive enough, adding color gives it an ominous feel.

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What colors will Terada use for the two-page spread?

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He chooses green for the mountainside and orange for the dragon.

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Terada then adds a vivid red.

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The inside of the mouth is light blue.

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So colorful!

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If you colored the dragon like Godzilla,

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it would be too boring.

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Yes.

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I thought red would be a good match.

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But as I colored, I felt it needed more.

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Since the scenery had lots of warm colors,

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I used blue for the falling parts.

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That's my thought process.

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Terada colors the tentacles around Goku red.

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The tentacles are actually coming out of the old man.

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The old man came out looking very weak.

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He wasn't strong enough on his own.

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So, I made him part of the dragon.

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Like the dorsal spine of an angler fish.

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I added long tubes inside the dragon.

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They could be blood vessels, whiskers,

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a tongue, or whatever else.

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The goal was to make it look like

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it was all connected and moved together.

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It turns out the old man was a part of the dragon!

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Even when improvising, Terada's attention to detail is incredible.

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Next, he adds depth to the dragon with dark gray shadows.

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When working on color manuscripts,

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shadowing is the most enjoyable part.

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I agree.

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Adding texture with quick dashes.

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This is all about perfecting the image.

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Shadows come last.

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Dabbing in shadows brings it all together.

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The world of Daienou comes to life with each dash of color.

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Watching you work makes me feel

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that art style decides genre.

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You wouldn't make a manga like "YAWARA," would you?

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I couldn't.

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Like you, as a kid, I started with

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Tezuka Osamu and Ishinomori Shotaro.

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Then, I moved on to Moebius,

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Otomo Katsuhiro, and so on.

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But one day,

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I decided to make a female judo manga "YAWARA."

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I turned the wheel in a new direction.

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You've always been able to

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reach mainstream audiences.

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In my case, the boy inside me

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is in a small room telling me,

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"Draw this!" or "What about this?"

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He led me to where I am now.

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That child is at the core of any artist.

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That's why I'm jealous at your ability

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to stay true and dedicated to that boy.

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I'm sure a lot of artists feel the same!

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They admire how you keep pushing forward.

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After layering pale-blue colors on the mountainside, Terada is finished.

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Colorful monsters not of this world.

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And in the air, Goku and his group in danger.

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The colors turn the monotone scene into a vibrant, catchy image.

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A big part of my job is illustrating.

47:17

I make an illustration, then a manga.

47:22

Stretching my hands in both directions helps me maintain balance.

47:29

But I have yet to make a manga that satisfies me.

47:33

The hope I will keeps me going.

47:36

I would love to make a short story.

47:40

Then hand it to you and say, "Make this a manga!"

47:43

I want you to try something like that.

47:47

A manga?

47:50

Yes, and interpret it in a straightforward way.

47:54

That's not me. I like angles.

47:58

From your perspective, not someone else's!

48:00

I see.

48:03

We don't have much time left.

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I would love to try something like that.

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But if not, that's fine, too.

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Although they share the same influences, Terada and Urasawa release very different work.

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After the discussion, we asked them to do a live sketch of each other.