Japanophiles: Nicoleta Oprisan

*First broadcast on May 9, 2024.
Nicoleta Oprisan from Romania is highly skilled at ikebana, the Japanese art of flower arranging. In a Japanophiles interview, she speaks about ikebana's power to communicate without words.

This giant installation was created for an event in Romania
Nicoleta Oprisan sees ikebana (flower arranging) as a way to communicate without words
Peter Barakan tries his hand at ikebana

Transcript

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Japanology Plus

00:17

Seasonal plants and flowers
presented beautifully.

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This Japanese tradition
is called “ikebana.”

00:27

Nicoleta Oprisan, from Romania,
is an ikebana artist based in Tokyo.

00:34

Her work has been featured in
department stores and hotel restaurants.

00:40

She sometimes creates giant installations

00:44

that offer a sense of luxury and elegance.

00:50

One of her admirers handles
PR for leading brands.

00:56

Her style is...
has a vibrant liveliness and also elegant.

01:03

So that's why I like her style a lot.

01:09

Oprisan, who speaks six languages,

01:12

sees ikebana itself as a unique
way to communicate.

01:21

Today, ikebana artist Nicoleta Oprisan
tells us about the appeal of this art form,

01:27

and its role as a universal language.

01:36

Hello, and welcome to Japanology Plus.
I'm Peter Barakan.

01:40

Today we present one of
our Japanophile profiles.

01:44

It's a point of pride
among Japanese people

01:46

that this country has four
distinctly defined seasons.

01:50

Although with global warming,
that's becoming something of a moot point.

01:54

Nevertheless, Japanese people are very
sensitive to the changing of the seasons,

01:59

which are perhaps symbolized more than
anything by the different flowers you see.

02:04

For example, the cherry blossoms behind
me signal very much the coming of spring.

02:09

Our guest today is an ikebana artist,

02:13

and I think it's perhaps best
that I go and meet her

02:15

and we find out what it's all about.

02:32

Hello. Nice to meet you.

02:34

Nice to meet you too.

02:36

Please do come in.

02:37

Thank you.

02:37

Thank you for having us today.

02:39

Thank you for coming.

02:41

Lovely.

02:43

I was fully expecting to
see something like this.

02:47

Do you normally have an arrangement?

02:50

Yes. There's always flowers
in the house, one way or another.

02:56

For centuries,
Japanese have showcased the beauty

03:00

of seasonal plants and
flowers in artful displays.

03:06

Ikebana is among Japan's
leading cultural traditions.

03:12

Much like formal dancing
and the tea ceremony,

03:16

ikebana is more than just
a cultural activity.

03:20

It is a meditative experience
with an emphasis on etiquette.

03:27

In Japan, floral displays date
back to the arrival of Buddhism

03:31

fifteen hundred years ago.

03:35

Eventually ikebana became
a feature of everyday life.

03:39

A special alcove called the tokonoma was
the setting for floral displays in homes.

03:48

Ikebana is a word that I'm sure lots
of people are familiar with to an extent.

03:54

Perhaps, though, you could give us
a simple explanation of what it is.

03:58

I think we should probably expand
the word ikebana to “kado.”

04:05

Okay.

04:06

In the Western world, ikebana used
as such, as the word ikebana.

04:11

But sometimes it is translated into
Japanese: flower arrangement.

04:16

Which kind of pits it against
the Western flower arrangement.

04:21

If you refer to it
as the umbrella term, kado,

04:26

I think we give it a bit more justice

04:29

because kado is intrinsic
to Japanese culture,

04:33

and it embodies not only flowers

04:37

but also the journey one
takes to reach that goal.

04:45

And that kado, the do,

04:48

the road, the path, the journey,

04:51

exists in shodo. Sado.

04:55

So way, when we use the translated terms,

04:59

they look like disparate entities,
if you wish.

05:02

It's tea ceremony and calligraphy
and then we have ikebana.

05:07

But if we use that term that encompasses
the Japanese culture a bit more,

05:12

I think it's easier to start explaining
the term as a journey through the flowers.

05:20

And this journey will take you to probably
hopefully to discover yourself.

05:27

This is probably a fairer explanation
of what ikebana stands for.

05:36

Oprisan uses her skills as an ikebana
artist to create arrangements that

05:41

complement every space in her home.

05:48

Today, she wants flowers
for the front entrance.

05:51

- Good morning.
- Welcome. Hello.

05:55

In ikebana, branches and stems
may be just as important as flowers.

06:01

Many flower shops stock a wide
range of ikebana elements.

06:11

- How about this?
- I like it very much.

06:18

Oprisan has selected red azalea.

06:25

Making good use of branches, greenery,
and all the other elements of plants

06:31

is a feature of Sogetsu, one of
about 300 ikebana schools in Japan.

06:39

Oprisan teaches this approach,
which celebrates freedom of expression.

06:46

Here, she places green leaves behind
the dynamically positioned azaleas.

06:56

She completes the display
with several white flowers.

07:02

Tell us about this display.

07:05

Today I wanted to...
to show the beauty of spring.

07:10

Obviously when we think spring,
we think Sakura.

07:15

Sakura trees are very shy this year.

07:19

So instead, we'll use
this beautiful azalea.

07:23

And I think the pairing with white
is quite beautiful, and Japanese.

07:29

I also like to present them
in this beautiful tsubo vase.

07:34

And I think the combination
of not only chromatically,

07:37

but also the type of flowers,
very wild and soon to open,

07:43

and also very elegant and classy.

07:46

They make a very good match.

07:48

And I think they fit
very well in this piece.

07:54

Ohayo gozaimasu. Good morning.

07:59

Good morning.

08:00

Tokyo residents of various
nationalities study with Oprisan.

08:05

Hello. Good morning ladies.

08:08

Hello everybody.

08:09

I'm going to join your class today.

08:14

So today we're going to work
with creating our curved lines.

08:21

The materials we have are the dragon claw.

08:24

It's type of a willow,
so it's really bendable as a material.

08:29

It already has a curving itself,
and it looks beautiful as it is.

08:32

It does, doesn't it?

08:33

Yes.

08:34

But if we curve it even more,

08:39

we can even go to the extreme.

08:42

Whoa.

08:44

You can use this.

08:47

Oh, even like that?

08:50

So the possibilities are endless.

08:52

Are endless. Indeed. Yes.

08:56

Now is your turn.

08:57

Okay.

09:00

Do not worry about how
to fix or how it looks.

09:05

Do not put a lot of rational into it.

09:08

Just create it, you know, as an impulse.

09:12

As it comes.

09:13

Okay.

09:16

Today, the theme is “curves.”

09:20

Oprisan always tries to give advice

09:23

that's specific to each student
and the material that they're using.

09:30

Would you like to have a heart shaped...?

09:39

Okay.

09:40

So would you like to
connect them together?

09:45

I think so, yeah.

09:46

Okay.

09:47

May I help?

09:47

Yes, please.

09:50

Ah, okay, we can go back
through here. I see.

09:56

Normally the flower has
a tendency to droop.

09:59

Right.

10:00

So in its droopy stage is
a little bit more, you know, sad.

10:05

So this way, if we turn it the other way,

10:09

we see it with an uplift.

10:12

So it looks nicer.

10:15

In order to emphasize perhaps this line,

10:20

I could maybe cut this,

10:24

and then I will have a beautiful,
curved line.

10:28

Oh, I see.

10:29

So you can basically cut off anything
you want to at any time?

10:32

Yes.

10:33

There are no rules about that at all.

10:34

No.

10:36

Okay. Let's see.

10:39

We might need some little jari to cover.

10:42

It looks very nice.

10:43

Yeah, and just...

10:45

Yeah. So a little bit here.

10:48

Maybe this one because it's touching...

10:51

Exactly.

10:54

Using the same materials to
express the same theme,

10:58

each student nevertheless
produces a unique arrangement.

11:04

Here, you can see actually
the profile of flower.

11:08

Whereas here you see
the front of the flower.

11:14

You know this is my first time so
I think if I had too many other things,

11:18

I'm probably going to ruin it.

11:20

I tend to like simplicity anyway.

11:24

So generally, you will have flowers and
some kind of a flowering plant, I suppose.

11:32

And branches.

11:33

Is it usually a combination
of those different elements?

11:37

Usually, yes. Yes.

11:39

We can see there's three things.

11:42

Line, mass and color.

11:45

Lines are usually given by the branch.

11:49

Mass is offered usually by the leaves
and the green materials we add.

11:55

Okay.

11:55

And color, usually the flower.

11:58

Okay.

12:02

Nicoleta Oprisan was born
in Bucharest, Romania.

12:08

When she was a child,

12:09

her father would read stories
to her in French and German.

12:13

She developed an interest in languages.

12:18

She went on to study Japanese
at the University of Bucharest.

12:25

Was there a reason why you
wanted to do Japanese?

12:28

Well, I grew up surrounded by languages.

12:31

My father spoke English,
French and German fluently.

12:35

So it was very normal to hear
all sorts of languages at home.

12:42

But also, he was the one
who encouraged me to find a different path

12:46

and just not necessarily follow
the mainstream road.

12:52

Probably because I wanted to create,
to be different, in a way.

12:58

So then I had a chance to meet
a fantastic teacher...mentor, actually,

13:05

who helped me to, start learning Japanese.

13:08

And my teacher told me,

13:11

if you can understand this first couple
of lessons in this book in Japanese,

13:17

and you come back to me
with the lessons learned,

13:20

then I will help you.

13:23

In...probably in my arrogance,

13:24

I assumed that, you know,
languages are similar in a way,

13:29

and you can link them with
another language that you know,

13:32

and it can't be that difficult to memorize
something in a short period of time.

13:40

And I did go back with the book,
and I struggled.

13:45

It was very different.

13:46

I couldn't link Japanese to
any of the languages I knew.

13:51

Right.

13:52

So therefore it was all brand new.

13:55

I had to learn and to create
my own connections from zero.

14:00

Japanese is an SOV language,
so you'll have the verb at the end,

14:04

meaning that your way of thinking
is also different when you speak.

14:10

Right.

14:11

You don't know if the verb
is positive or negative

14:13

until the very end of the sentence.

14:15

That's true. Or if it's a question or not.

14:17

Right.

14:20

Inspired by her father
and that special teacher,

14:24

Oprisan can now speak six languages:

14:27

Romanian, English, French,
German, Korean, and Japanese.

14:34

Her life-changing encounter with ikebana

14:36

came when she was studying
in Tokyo in 1999.

14:42

After completing graduate school,
she got a job in Japan.

14:47

In 2007,

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she began studying Sogetsu Ikebana,

14:53

and in just two years,
she became a teacher.

15:00

Since 2016 she herself has
been guided by Ishikawa Misei,

15:05

a teacher who promotes
ikebana internationally.

15:10

We asked Ishikawa what Oprisan
is like as a student.

15:21

She's very serious.

15:23

That comes across even in
a brief conversation with her.

15:28

In Sogetsu Ikebana, we explore
the possibilities of the materials.

15:33

If you have a rose, what aspect
of the rose do you focus on?

15:38

How should you display the leaves?

15:40

There are so many options.

15:43

Nicoleta has a gift for exploring
the various possibilities.

15:48

And she tries very hard to
find beauty in each material.

15:52

That uncompromising passion is evident.

15:57

What impressed me the most was the fact

16:00

that you can express a lot
by using just one flower.

16:04

Mm hmm.

16:05

We don't necessarily look at flowers
that are only beautiful flowers.

16:11

We can use branches. We can use leaves.

16:14

You can use flowers,
or even dried materials or wilted flowers.

16:19

As long as you can find the inner
beauty of that particular material,

16:24

then you can express yourself in
a whole new way with the help of flowers.

16:30

So probably that was the first
thing that attracted me.

16:35

And secondly is probably
my linguistic background.

16:39

I noticed

16:43

how much you can express

16:44

of your own emotion
and your own feel with just flowers

16:49

crossing all the barriers
of language and culture.

16:54

Everyone can express,
everyone can resonate

16:57

with an arrangement in a way or another

16:59

if you can convey that emotion.

17:02

For instance,
even love or care or nostalgia.

17:08

There is so many things
that come together,

17:12

they depict a slice of yourself
when you create that arrangement.

17:17

If you're calm and zen and relaxed,

17:19

your arrangement will
probably take that form.

17:24

If you're really tensed and stressed,

17:28

the arrangement will show it
in a contorted way.

17:35

And I think it's very interesting

17:37

to see how people resonate with
what you're trying to convey.

17:43

Mmm.

17:43

And I don't think that ikebana's
or kado's role is to

17:48

necessarily give these emotions
on a platter for people to see.

17:54

It's just to deepen the mystery

17:56

and perhaps just pluck that resonant
string and let it resonate further

18:02

and see how people engage
with it and how they feel.

18:06

So you were you were starting to get
interested in non-verbal communication.

18:12

Do you know why that was?

18:13

Was there a frustration with not being
able to get things across with words?

18:19

No, actually,
it started with my small children.

18:22

Oh.

18:23

I realized that if,
in whatever background they are,

18:28

in...with whoever they play,

18:33

language is not important for them.

18:35

They could easily communicate
with every other child.

18:38

Each one in their own language.

18:40

I think this was the moment
when I realized,

18:44

yes, we do speak languages,
sometimes they are useful.

18:47

We are in situations
when we can't speak the language.

18:52

What do we do then?

18:54

We still communicate.

18:56

We struggle mutually to convey something,

19:01

and the other will struggle to understand.

19:05

And I think this is when, when,
when I started thinking about language

19:10

and how we can actually narrow it all down
to the so-called universal language.

19:16

And I think this is what for me,
is what gets translated into flowers.

19:23

Because I feel that with flowers,
I can express myself,

19:28

and someone who doesn't speak
my language can perhaps resonate with it.

19:33

Right.

19:34

Yeah, you mentioned a universal language.

19:36

People often refer to
music in the same way.

19:39

But it's interesting
that flowers could take that place.

19:45

That's fascinating.

19:49

Oprisan has a gift for creating dynamic,
large-scale pieces.

19:55

Her work has been displayed
in department stores,

19:58

famous hotel restaurants, and at events.

20:08

Here's the CEO of a company that promotes
international luxury brands in Japan.

20:13

She's a fan of Oprisan's work.

20:18

Many people has a different style,
of course.

20:21

But her style is...has a vibrant
liveliness, and also elegant.

20:30

So that's why I like her style a lot.

20:35

But she has a basic understanding
of Japanese culture,

20:39

and inside, you know, through
the language of the...Japanese skill.

20:44

So that's
why I really feel like, you know,

20:47

I don't have any border
to understand each other.

20:52

Very easy to work with.

20:56

Oprisan creates displays
for international gatherings in Tokyo.

21:03

- Long time no see!
- Yes!

21:06

Come in.

21:13

Today she's going to discuss a display

21:15

for an upcoming party
at the Turkish Embassy.

21:21

So in terms of flowers.

21:23

So, of course, Turkish rose. You love it.

21:27

Yes. I love it, yes.

21:29

And then tulip is also
originally from Turkey.

21:34

Not Dutch.

21:37

So that's kind of a good story is behind.

21:40

What would be the your kind
of style for the event...

21:44

they are going to sitting
down for the meals,

21:47

so I would like to have a table
flower like this, but more broad.

21:51

Right, right.

21:53

Having something as a hobby,

21:56

you can do what you want,
when you want, any time.

22:00

When it becomes your work,

22:03

very often they go to say, well,
we want it done in this way or this way.

22:08

Do you get those sort of requests as well?

22:10

To a certain extent.

22:12

I think I still have artistic freedom
in most of the creations,

22:18

but quite often I tend to be
restricted by different spaces,

22:23

by different backgrounds.

22:25

If the arrangement needs to be on a stage,
or in a shop window, or outdoors,

22:30

I have to take into consideration
several factors when arranging,

22:34

but also when selecting the materials.

22:37

Okay.

22:38

And that maybe changes a little bit
that initial impulsive moment of creation.

22:45

Right.

22:46

But please bear in mind that
even if there is an image and a sketch

22:52

and a general idea of
what the arrangement will look like,

22:57

everything happens on the spot.

23:00

So the moment I arrange, that's the moment
when it's just me and my bubble.

23:06

And that's the moment
when creation actually happens.

23:10

That is the hobby part of it.

23:12

Okay. Okay.

23:14

So if you're doing an arrangement
for a restaurant,

23:17

will you actually do the creation
in the restaurant?

23:19

Always.

23:21

Not only on the venue, but in the spot
where the flowers will be enjoyed.

23:27

But once you've created it, it's got
to last for the best part of a week.

23:30

Yes.

23:31

Which means that you can't have the
flowers wilting after a couple of days.

23:36

No, no.

23:37

And you cannot have
anything falling down onto.

23:40

Right.

23:40

Do you actually come in to make sure
that everything looks good,

23:43

looks properly...?

23:45

I always do maintenance for the
arrangements that have to stay for more.

23:50

Okay.

23:51

So it's quite labor intensive in that way.

23:54

It is. It is.

23:56

That that is probably the part of it
that is more business than hobby.

24:02

Okay. Yeah.

24:04

And you do everything yourself?

24:05

Yes. Yes.

24:07

Well I do have people...assistants
for big undertakings like this.

24:14

But everything...the concept,
the ordering of flowers,

24:18

the...everything is...
the prototype, the design,

24:20

everything is done by myself. Yes.

24:23

Okay.

24:24

So when you are doing an arrangement,

24:26

especially for a public space,

24:28

will you think about
putting in elements that will

24:32

draw a reaction
from the people that see it?

24:35

Yes, always.

24:36

Okay. So that's something
you actually think about.

24:38

Yes.

24:39

There is a lot of thought and
there is a lot of preparation

24:42

that goes beyond an event of this scale.

24:47

And nothing is random.

24:49

All the elements are chosen with
a particular purpose in mind.

24:56

It does...it probably does look
natural and as free as nature is.

25:03

But every single detail is pre-planned.

25:09

Every week, Oprisan holds an online
class for students in Romania.

25:17

The idea for this class

25:19

came from the professor
who taught her Japanese at university.

25:23

Each student brings along local,
seasonal materials.

25:28

What materials?

25:29

Oh.

25:33

Yes, very pretty.

25:45

Oprisan believes her linguistic skills

25:48

can help expand ikebana's
international fan base,

25:52

so she's planning to teach
more online classes.

25:57

I try to perfect teaching ikebana online
so that it matches that style as well.

26:05

Because when you teach and you have a,
you know, a physical presence,

26:11

then flowers look different.

26:13

But when seen through a camera,

26:15

then you have to adjust angles
and you have to rotate

26:18

and you have to show in a different way.

26:21

So I try to take that into account
when I teach online.

26:28

And as kind of a thank you
from me for that university

26:33

and as a lovely way of meeting
all my students,

26:38

I accepted the invitation of going
to Romania for this event I created.

26:44

And it was coupled with a lot of workshop,

26:47

ikebana workshop with my students,
and ikebana exhibitions by them.

26:55

That was actually the main reason
why I wanted to create this,

27:00

this friendship across borders.

27:04

But interesting too that ikebana can
be done not necessarily in Japan

27:08

and not necessarily
with Japanese materials.

27:11

And I guess also you're also
using imported flowers here.

27:15

Yes.

27:15

So it really doesn't matter
which flowers you're using.

27:18

It's all about what's in here.

27:20

That's true.

27:20

Or in here.

27:21

That's true. Both.

27:25

The last question of these Japanophile
shows is always the same one.

27:28

It's: What is Japan to you?

27:30

Japan to me is home.

27:34

It's home.

27:35

It's really where my heart belongs.

27:38

And this is where I started
to embark on this journey.

27:43

And I'm looking forward to see
where the path is leading me.

27:48

Okay. Short and sweet.

27:50

Thank you very much.

27:51

Thank you too.