Japanophiles: Matthew Headland

*First broadcast on March 7, 2024.
Matthew Headland, a Canadian, works in marketing at a hand-hammered copperware workshop. In a Japanophiles interview, he shares his enthusiasm for the craft with Peter Barakan.

In the traditional craft of hand-hammered copperware, single sheets of copper are hammered into beautiful, practical items that can last for a hundred years
For Matthew Headland, hand-hammered copperware changed his outlook on life
Under Headland's guidance, Peter Barakan tries his hand at making a copper dish

Transcript

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Japanology Plus

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Hand-hammered copperware ages gracefully.

00:26

If it's handled properly,
it can last for a hundred years.

00:34

Each object is hammered
from a single sheet of metal.

00:38

And each part of this traditional
craft is done by hand.

00:45

The artistry of hand-hammered copperware
captivated Matthew Headland, from Canada.

00:52

He became a marketer for a workshop
founded over 200 years ago,

00:57

and tripled its sales
to foreign customers.

01:02

He now shares his enthusiasm

01:04

for traditional Japanese crafts
with an international audience.

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Today, we'll learn why he finds
copperware so enthralling,

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and hear how interacting
with these objects

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has influenced his outlook on life.

01:29

Hello and welcome to Japanology Plus.
I'm Peter Barakan.

01:33

Today we present one
of our Japanophile profiles.

01:36

I'm in the city of Tsubame
in Niigata Prefecture,

01:40

a place which is famous for its
exceptional craftsmanship in metalworking.

01:46

The cutlery produced here
is prized internationally,

01:49

and for the last 30 years or so has been
used in the Nobel Prize Winners Banquet.

01:55

Today, I'll be talking
to Matthew Headland,

01:58

who works for a well-known company
that produces hand-hammered copperware,

02:04

another product which
this region is famous for.

02:25

- Matthew?
- Yes?

02:26

- I'm Peter.
- Peter, of course. Welcome.

02:28

- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you as well. Please.

02:31

- Thank you.
- Come out from the rain.

02:36

Tsubame was once known
for its plentiful minerals.

02:43

Metalworking flourished.

02:46

Useful everyday items have been
made here for hundreds of years.

02:53

Copperware pieces are hand hammered,
one by one.

03:00

They're functional, but can also
be appreciated as works of art.

03:07

Headland works at a long-established
copperware workshop.

03:14

He develops international
marketing initiatives,

03:18

translates the company
website into English,

03:21

and shares information on social media.

03:28

His activities have boosted
international sales.

03:33

He assists Japanese customers, too.

03:38

You have to polish it like this
to preserve the grooves.

03:42

So you shouldn't scrub too hard?

03:44

- Exactly.
- I see. Wow.

03:46

Otherwise, these carefully hammered
grooves will disappear.

03:55

Headland will give us the standard tour.

04:00

This is a really nice old building,
and done up very prettily as well.

04:06

It actually used to
be the living quarters.

04:09

The fourth and fifth generations.

04:10

So how many generations
have there been so far?

04:13

Well, we're on our seventh generation now,

04:16

and the workshop has been
in operation for over 200 years.

04:20

Wow. Okay.

04:22

And these are all examples
of the products made here?

04:25

Yes. This is a small collection

04:28

of the pieces that
we actually make in the back.

04:32

And these are all made out of copper?

04:34

Yes.

04:36

This is called hand-hammered
copperware, right?

04:38

That's right. Yes.

04:39

So for example, a piece like this,

04:43

there's no joins in it anywhere.

04:46

It's all been made out
of one piece of copper.

04:49

Right.

04:50

These are perhaps
the most representative pieces.

04:54

You can tell here that the spout
and the body have no joint.

05:00

So this is actually made
out of one piece of metal.

05:02

Yes, that's right.

05:04

How is that done?

05:06

I'm sure you're going
to have to explain this.

05:08

Well, I can give you a little bit of
a look in the back, if you like.

05:13

Absolutely. Yeah.

05:19

We are doing some annealing right now.

05:24

Copper has very,
very good heat conduction.

05:26

So before we do any work with it,

05:29

to soften it,
we'll put it in the fire like this.

05:39

This is where we do forming.

05:42

We do a lot of the texturing here as well.

05:46

This is called the hammering room.

05:48

Okay.

05:52

The artisans carefully hammer copper
sheets into various shapes.

05:57

They also generate
different visual motifs.

06:03

So this one can change.

06:06

- Quite...
- Quite dramatically, yes.

06:09

I didn't realize it was going
to move that much.

06:11

Yes.

06:14

Whereas this one...
this one has been hammered,

06:19

and you can probably attempt to move that,

06:22

but it'll spring right back
to its original shape.

06:26

So this is actually one of the reasons
why the house, we believe,

06:30

started to work with this material.

06:32

Because of the ease at which it
can be formed and shaped.

06:36

In contrast to, say, iron, which has
to be kept in a fire and kept hot.

06:41

And you have to hammer it
and manipulate it while it's hot.

06:45

Right, right.

06:47

A single sheet of copper

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is gradually hammered and stretched
into the desired shape.

06:55

Here, we see the various
stages of a teapot.

07:09

Working entirely by hand,

07:11

artisans patiently hammer a flat disc
of metal into the finished product.

07:18

Typically people will
see this and they say,

07:20

“Oh, you've hammered to stretch
the copper out to make a spout.”

07:27

But actually, what we've done is
we've hammered to shrink the body.

07:34

When we start here with a disc,
we don't need it any thinner.

07:38

What we need, actually,
is to bring this outside circumference in.

07:44

We need to shrink it to make
this the diameter of this opening.

07:51

And so what we do is, our artisans will
hold it at an angle and hammer it,

07:56

such that the piece actually shrinks.

08:00

It raises and shrinks to make a vessel.

08:04

You can see here, you can
follow this progression here,

08:06

and you see that the outside
is slowly getting

08:08

Right.

08:10

smaller, and more narrow, right?

08:14

But what you might also notice is that
the spout doesn't actually move much.

08:20

Aha. I see. I see.

08:22

Right.

08:24

Now, these big metal pieces down here,
you were calling these anvil stakes?

08:30

Anvil stakes, yeah.

08:31

How do those work?

08:33

If I was to make something
like this, right?

08:36

It looks perhaps like you could, you know,

08:39

you could make it with one
single anvil stake, this contour here.

08:43

But in actuality, our artisans,
when we texture this piece,

08:48

will actually use maybe one, two, three
different anvil stakes just for the body.

08:55

How will they use them?

08:57

The tool inside of this...

08:59

Okay.

09:02

So I may actually put
the copper on top here

09:06

and I want to hold it in such a way
that it's flush with the surface

09:13

that I want to hammer.

09:15

Okay.

09:16

Now, what's very important is
that when I hammer it like this,

09:18

the artisans can actually
tell from the sound

09:22

where the tool is in relation
to the material,

09:25

so if it has a bit of a hollow sound,
it may not be flush,

09:31

and when you hammer it,
it might actually just indent, right?

09:34

So it's very important that the artisans
are cognizant and listen for that sound.

09:39

They can also tell when they hammer it,

09:41

based on the feel,
how the hammer springs back.

09:46

The craft of shaping copper with a hammer
spread to this region in the 1700s.

09:52

It has been passed down ever since.

09:59

Do you do these workshop tours regularly?

10:02

Yes.

10:03

Well, I did the tour for you just now
in English, so I can do that, of course.

10:07

But I also do some
of the Japanese tours as well.

10:11

In a weird way,
the Japanese tour is easier for me.

10:14

Why's that?

10:15

I think it has to do with the language...

10:18

this...the specialty vocabulary
that's involved.

10:21

Okay.

10:22

Do you actually get people coming in
from a bunch of different countries?

10:26

Certainly.

10:27

I mean, we have people from Australia,
New Zealand, Canada, the United States.

10:33

Actually, I believe today
I had an email...

10:36

people from, I believe, Hong Kong
wanted to come and see the workshop.

10:41

It's not uncommon for people
to just kind of show up as well.

10:45

- Really?
- Yeah. Yeah.

10:47

One time Colombia...
How do people find out about you?

10:50

Sometimes people will
be visiting the area close by.

10:56

They might do an internet
search and find our name,

11:01

and then decide to come directly.

11:05

Matthew Headland was born
in Toronto, Canada.

11:11

He is the second of three children.

11:15

As a boy,

11:16

his love for Japanese superheroes and
ninjas drew him toward Japan.

11:23

As the years went by,

11:24

his interests evolved and he started
practicing martial arts.

11:29

Then at the University of Toronto,
he majored in East Asian Studies.

11:35

He began learning Japanese,

11:37

and at age 20 spent a year
in the Kansai region.

11:43

You studied Japanese
in university, I know.

11:45

Yes.

11:47

I know I did the same thing too,
and they teach you a lot.

11:49

You learn to read and write.

11:51

But speaking is a lot harder, isn't it?

11:53

Yes. Well, and even
for the writing and the reading,

11:57

I was probably near the bottom
of the class, I think.

12:02

But yeah, well, I mean, I didn't really
learn to speak until I came to Japan.

12:07

My first experience in Japan
was in the Kansai area,

12:14

particularly in Hyogo.

12:17

I had a very sweet host family there,
so I stayed for a little bit.

12:21

And then I also lived in Osaka for a time.

12:24

Well, suffice to say
the first kind of Japanese

12:28

that I actually learned how to speak
was Kansai-ben, or the Kansai accent.

12:33

Oh, okay.

12:34

It was so ingrained in me

12:37

that even when I went back
to Canada to finish my degree,

12:42

my Japanese teacher would
get upset with me and say,

12:45

“Speak, you know,
the standard Japanese,” right?

12:47

Which you didn't know.

12:49

Well, and I mean, you know, and my
knowledge for language at that point,

12:53

what came off the tongue, was Kansai.

12:58

In 2011,

12:59

Headland moved to Niigata to work as
an assistant English language teacher.

13:07

Wanting to learn more about his new home,

13:09

he co-founded a group
that undertakes activities

13:12

to benefit local sake breweries.

13:17

I was part of a group
called Niigata Sake Lovers,

13:23

and I was actually one of the...

13:25

one of the founding members
of that organization.

13:28

But the whole idea was to

13:33

not only enjoy the tasting
and all of that, the drinking of it,

13:37

but it was really to grow a deeper
appreciation for the beverage.

13:44

And I should probably add,

13:46

this area is very famous for its
sake and its rice, of course.

13:49

Yes, that was probably the...knowing
that sake was famous here was probably

13:54

the extent of my knowledge before coming.

13:57

Being a part of that organization
and the people that, uh, that came,

14:04

I mean, it completely changed
my relationship with Niigata as well.

14:11

As a member of the sake group,

14:12

Headland made a presentation

14:14

at an event about the significance
of traditional manufacturing.

14:20

There, he met Tamagawa Motoyuki,

14:23

the president of a hand-hammered
copperware business.

14:27

Tamagawa was immediately
impressed with Headland.

14:34

I spoke about copperware
and traditional crafts.

14:38

And he spoke about sake.

14:42

That's how we got to know each other.

14:45

His Japanese was extremely good,

14:48

and I saw that he had a genuine
love for Japanese culture.

14:53

I was very impressed.

14:56

I wanted to hire him and put him
in charge of international business.

15:02

So I asked.

15:04

But on that occasion, he turned me down.

15:06

You offered him a job?

15:08

Yes, yes.

15:10

I made him an offer.

15:13

And he said no.

15:15

But then I said, “How about coming
once a week to teach the staff English?”

15:20

And he agreed to that.

15:23

As he taught English
to the workshop staff,

15:26

Headland found himself becoming
increasingly fascinated with

15:29

hand-hammered copperware.

15:33

It was interesting because when
an English-speaking person would come,

15:39

I would often be recruited
to see them through the workshop.

15:44

Despite having taught everybody else.

15:47

Right.

15:49

And so, you know, obviously,

15:51

obviously coming from a
language and humanities background,

15:56

I had absolutely no idea about
how copperware is made or produced.

16:00

So I would translate for the artisans.

16:04

Ah, okay.

16:05

And it was through that that dialogue,

16:08

um, because I had a million questions,

16:10

they would say one thing and I would
have to, in order to get it across,

16:13

I would have to ask all
these extra questions, right?

16:15

I would learn about
how copperware is made,

16:19

but also the, you know,
what's difficult, what's easy,

16:24

how they approach their work,
and all of that.

16:27

So I started to really understand
copperware in a much deeper,

16:31

deeper sense.

16:33

And the more I did that, the more...

16:36

what would you say, the take...
the more taken I was by the art, you know?

16:42

And so one day I just
showed up and I said,

16:45

“Mr. Tamagawa, I'd love a job.
One day a week is not enough.”

16:51

Do you know what he said?

16:52

He said, “I've been waiting for you.”

16:55

Perhaps it was part of his
master plan to bring me in,

17:00

you know, all these years.

17:02

Just as I planned!

17:05

I got him!

17:09

Headland spent a lot of time with
the artisans asking them questions,

17:14

and before long, they became friends.

17:21

We'd talk about work,
but also about hobbies.

17:26

And our private lives, too.

17:29

We talked a lot.

17:32

So when he said he wanted
to join the company, I was thrilled.

17:40

We get on well.

17:43

During the winter months,
we commute to work together on the train.

17:50

He's always eager to learn.

17:55

And he made a difficult piece
of copperware pretty quickly.

18:01

I was very impressed
that he managed to do that.

18:06

In the evenings and on days off,

18:08

Headland practices making
copperware himself.

18:12

The experience advances his knowledge

18:15

and deepens his appreciation
for the craft.

18:21

Now Peter's going to get
some hands-on experience.

18:25

He'll try making a copper dish.

18:32

So I want to actually
give you the chance to

18:37

put yourself in
the artisan's shoes a little bit,

18:40

and actually try some of the things
that we actually do every day.

18:44

Okay.

18:46

This will be a bit
of an adventure, surely?

18:48

Yes. Well, I hope so.

18:51

The first step is to give
the metal visual appeal.

18:58

That working?

19:00

Yeah, that looks good.

19:05

Differently shaped hammers are
used to produce different effects.

19:10

Today, Peter will be using three
hammers on one copper sheet.

19:14

You're going to put it on the edge here.
The curved edge.

19:20

A wooden mold is used
to create a curved shape.

19:26

Yeah, very nice.

19:36

The shaped metal is cleaned,

19:38

then soaked in a chemical solution
that brings out a subtle color.

19:49

Interesting color.

19:51

Yeah, it's got an interesting
color on the back there.

19:54

That's nice. I think I like that.

19:56

It's a nice color. It's a little unusual.

20:03

Here's Peter's finished dish.

20:05

What do you think?

20:10

When you were going in the workshop
after work, and experimenting yourself,

20:15

was there ever a point where you thought,

20:17

“Hmm, maybe I think I'd like
to do this full time”?

20:24

There was, to be honest.

20:29

I have a very, very strong, um, respect
and admiration for what the artisans do.

20:37

And so perhaps that feeling of admiration,

20:42

um, was somehow inclining
me towards that road.

20:47

But somehow I knew instinctively
that my skills were better served

20:54

making what their...
what they do more visible.

21:00

Whether that's when
they actually come in for a tour,

21:04

or if it's on the website,
or if it's at events, and so forth.

21:09

I think I get...I really get an energy
from people that I don't get

21:15

when I'm kind of in my own little...

21:17

when I'm in my own world working with,
with something, you know?

21:23

Through his work, Headland shares
his enthusiasm for copperware,

21:27

raises the company's profile,
and increases sales.

21:32

He truly loves the craft.

21:35

And the customers can sense that.

21:39

Previously, 10 to 20 percent
of our customers were foreign.

21:43

Now it's 50 percent.

21:48

He certainly has
a foreigner's perspective,

21:51

but he also interacts with customers
in a truly Japanese way.

21:57

Many of our customers aren't
simply fans of this company;

22:03

they're also fans of him.

22:07

He's really expanded our reach.

22:11

What is it about this kind of copperware
that attracts you particularly?

22:17

The copperware really changed the way
that I see things in my daily life.

22:26

And I can use it for a very,
very long time.

22:30

And the color is also another
part of the puzzle here.

22:35

If you look after your copperware,

22:38

you'll be able to pass it
on to your grandchildren.

22:41

And over time, the color slowly changes.

22:47

This kettle is three years old.

22:50

And this one is 50 years old.

22:54

It has a distinct personality, and a color
that comes from many years of use.

23:03

The colors are meant as a starting point.

23:07

I can give you a personal anecdote there.

23:11

I remember I was, I was quite busy,

23:14

and I hadn't taken the time that,

23:17

I originally had with
the coffee pot I was using.

23:20

And so a little bit of verdigris,

23:22

this sort of oxidized green layer
had developed on the side of it.

23:26

And I was quite surprised that it
just kind of appeared out of nowhere.

23:30

Now what I did is, you know, if you
take a little...like a plastic ruler,

23:34

if you take your fingernail,
you can usually scratch some of it off.

23:37

So that's what I did.

23:39

Unfortunately then though,
some of the colored surface came with it.

23:44

So the copper underneath was showing.

23:47

And I said, you know, I got on myself,
I was like, “Shoot, what have I done?”

23:51

But remembering that
the important thing was to use it,

23:56

and just to continue to use it.

23:58

So that's what I did.

23:59

And now that spot that was very,
very noticeable

24:04

has kind of melded into the rest
of the, the body, right?

24:09

And so it's not nearly as noticeable now.

24:11

Now if I look, it's kind
of that reminder of,

24:15

oh, it was that time when I was,
you know,

24:18

too busy or I was really stressed or,
you know.

24:22

And you were probably the only one
that realizes that now.

24:25

Right. Of course, it becomes
a story now that I can,

24:27

Sure.

24:28

that I can tell other people, right?

24:30

I think that kind of...what would you say?

24:34

That kind of care, or that kind
of approach, that kind of use

24:37

was not something
I was accustomed to until then.

24:41

I was very much the type of person that,
you know, cheap, disposable is best.

24:50

You know, I'll just buy what I need,
and if it breaks, well I'll buy it again.

24:54

Right, right.

24:56

Um, I've come to realize that perhaps

24:58

that's not best approach
to the things that I...that I use.

25:05

Mmm.

25:07

Um, I think in some sense that can

25:10

extend outside of the
things that you use as well.

25:13

You know, if you're...if you're taking
your time using a particular item,

25:17

you might take your time

25:19

and look up and see the person
that you're sitting across from.

25:22

Uh huh.

25:23

Right? Um, and maybe that's the person
that you tell that silly story to, right?

25:29

Um, and so suddenly this,

25:32

this coffee pot that was just helping
you stay more mindful in the moment

25:42

has now helped you connect
to the people around you.

25:47

These lessons also come
into play in family life.

25:51

In 2017, Headland got married.

25:57

A few years later,

25:59

the birth of his daughter marked
the beginning of another stage.

26:06

How much has your life changed
as a result of having a child?

26:11

Oh, yeah. It's completely different,
to say the least.

26:15

You have a...

26:16

A couple, yeah.

26:17

Yeah. So I only have one so far.

26:21

Without a doubt

26:22

it's changed the way that I
think about the things in my daily life.

26:26

She's a handful.

26:29

But, you know, she helped me
realize mindfulness to life that

26:39

that I, I couldn't imagine
living without now.

26:46

The last question on these Japanophile
programs is always the same one.

26:50

What is Japan to you?

26:52

I mean, it's a second home,
you know, without a doubt.

26:55

Because I graduated from university
and I came right here, right?

27:00

So, um, you know, in many ways,
it reminds me of that, of that song.

27:05

“I think I'm turning Japanese.”

27:07

I've probably turned Japanese.

27:09

You know, my first intuitive move
after I meet someone is to kind of

27:13

give them a small bow, you know?

27:16

It's hard to get rid
of those things, I think.

27:18

- Is it? From yeah, my...
- I think so.

27:21

-I mean, you acquire them really quickly.
- Yes.

27:22

But if you want to get rid
of them it's really hard.

27:25

That's right.

27:26

You know when you're bowing
when you're talking on the phone...

27:28

and you're bowing
when you're on the phone, right?

27:32

And it means a lot to hear that
from many years my senpai.

27:38

It's not a place that I'll ever forget.

27:41

And I really believe
that Niigata is part of who I am.

27:45

Mmm.

27:47

Okay. Thank you very much.

27:49

Not at all, it was my pleasure.
Thanks, Peter.

27:51

- I enjoyed it too.
- Thank you.