Vinyl Records

*First broadcast on June 30, 2022.
In Japan, vinyl records have made a comeback. Sales in 2021 were 10 times higher than they were in 2010. Japan's second-hand records are well-regarded all over the world because they're generally kept in great condition. Our guest, Honne Makoto, works for a record manufacturing company. He tells us about the history of vinyl in Japan, and its appeal in the modern era. We also see how world-class Japanese technology contributes to making vinyl records and the machines that play them.

In Japan, the market for second-hand records is booming
Honne Makoto works for a record manufacturing company
Japan is home to the only remaining company in the world that makes blank lacquer discs—a crucial element of record production

Transcript

00:20

Hello, and welcome to Japanology Plus.

00:22

I'm Peter Barakan.

00:24

Our topic for today, if you can't tell
from the design of my t-shirt, is this:

00:29

records.

00:30

It may come as a surprise to some people
watching this program that

00:34

for the last 40 years or more,

00:36

most of my time has been taken up

00:38

curating and presenting music programs
on the radio,

00:42

so today is going to
be right up my street.

00:45

For the last 15 years or so in the West,

00:48

most people have been consuming
their music through streaming,

00:52

and with the attendant
decline in CD sales,

00:55

surprisingly, vinyl records
have made something of a comeback.

01:00

So today, we take a dive into
Japan's record culture.

01:06

In Japan these days,

01:07

record shops are often
packed with customers.

01:13

The popularity of records
is illustrated by sales figures.

01:18

In 2010, sales totaled 170 million yen.

01:22

But the 2021 figure was
over ten times higher: 2.3 billion yen.

01:30

That astonishing growth
is being fueled by people under 30.

01:37

The artwork's a key factor.

01:39

I share images of my records online.

01:42

I can carefully dust my records,
and really take care of them.

01:47

That aspect appeals to me a lot.

01:51

The market for second-hand records
is booming too.

01:55

Here's a shop in Tokyo.

01:59

It stocks around 100,000 items,

02:02

including pop, rock, jazz,
and classical music.

02:09

Some are valuable collector's items.

02:11

Take, for example,
The Beatles' debut album.

02:15

The price is nearly 300,000 yen!

02:21

Japan's second-hand records are
also drawing international attention.

02:26

And that has prompted the emergence
of specialist export businesses.

02:34

This one ships around 30,000 records
a month to Germany.

02:38

From there, they're sent around the world.

02:44

Second-hand records from Japan are popular

02:46

because they're in such good condition—

02:49

much better than most records in the West.

02:56

People in Japan lavish
care and attention on their records.

03:01

A disc someone bought 40 years ago
will often be in almost perfect condition.

03:08

It's remarkable.

03:10

The jacket, too, must be in good shape.

03:14

And one extra feature gives records
sold in Japan a unique appeal.

03:21

These paper strips are called obi,

03:23

and they're only found on records
available in Japan.

03:29

The information on the obi may include
the tracks,

03:32

or a description of the artist.

03:34

Obi are not found on records elsewhere,

03:37

giving them significant scarcity value.

03:43

You can buy second-hand records
in some unusual places.

03:51

Here's one example.

03:53

It's a convenience store
where you can also buy vinyl.

04:00

Most of the stock here is
seven-inch singles.

04:04

You can pick one up with your groceries
and other everyday purchases.

04:10

There's even a listening station
at the back of the shop.

04:18

I collect records myself.

04:20

When we held a flea market in the store,

04:24

I tried selling them,
and they did really well.

04:28

So I decided to stock
records all the time.

04:32

That's how it started.

04:35

Here's a record shop that's also a pub.

04:42

They serve craft beer.

04:47

Customers can enjoy a drink
as they browse through the stock.

04:53

I spent half a year in the UK,
and I loved the pub culture there.

04:58

We still didn't really have that
in Japan back then, so I opened a pub.

05:03

I also wanted to sell records,
and now I do both.

05:08

The popularity of vinyl records in Japan
shows no signs of waning.

05:17

This is a record manufacturing plant.

05:24

Here, we're making seven-inch singles.

05:28

Wow, it's amazing.
You're still making singles.

05:31

Yeah.

05:32

How many discs can
this turn out in an hour?

05:35

Almost 100.

05:38

That's actually quite quick.

05:42

Our guest, Honne Makoto,
works for this company,

05:45

which produces over
a million discs per year.

05:53

His job is to promote sales of records.

06:00

It's interesting that second-hand records
from Japan are popular around the world.

06:05

First of all, are we talking about
Japanese music, or foreign music?

06:10

Well, in Japan we have this music
called “City Pop.”

06:16

You can trace it back to what we called
“New Music” in the 1970s.

06:21

It was like folk rock, basically.

06:22

Yes, yes, “New Music” was like that.

06:25

“City Pop”, though,

06:27

is kind of old-style Japanese pop
with various US styles mixed in.

06:32

OK.

06:34

For some reason, in the last few years,

06:37

the “City Pop” genre
has become globally popular.

06:41

Yeah.

06:42

Another reason behind the demand
for second-hand records from Japan

06:46

is their condition.

06:48

Americans and Europeans
handle discs differently.

06:52

Maybe a bit rough with them?

06:54

I wasn't! I used to take
really good care of my records.

06:58

But I know what you're talking about.

06:59

I can remember lending records to friends,

07:01

and having them come back
horribly scratched.

07:05

OK, so Japanese people
do treat their things well.

07:09

Yeah.

07:10

We keep things looking nice.

07:12

What do you think is responsible
for this sudden popularity in vinyl,

07:16

after such a long time?

07:19

Around 15 years ago,

07:21

an event called “Record Store Day”
was started in the United States.

07:26

The idea was to encourage people
to visit independent record stores,

07:30

and to listen to vinyl records.

07:32

That was 15 years back.

07:35

And artists quickly got involved.

07:37

Earlier than record labels.

07:41

That's because artists liked
how their music sounded on vinyl.

07:46

They also liked that records,
even singles,

07:48

have an A Side...and a B Side.

07:54

It's like a character with
a public persona and a hidden side,

07:58

occupying the same world.

08:01

With one 20-minute side of an LP,
you can tell a story.

08:06

Artists wanted their music
to be heard in that analog form,

08:11

and I think that message
reached their audience.

08:13

Right.

08:14

One thing I've always
felt with vinyl records is that

08:18

the sequencing is important.

08:22

With CDs, as soon as CD players came out,

08:24

they always had a remote control,

08:27

and if you didn't like the song,
you could just skip it.

08:29

Whereas with LPs, there was…
there were two sides.

08:34

And one side is typically about
20 minutes, give or take a few minutes.

08:38

And that's a kind of good segment of time

08:42

to be able to maintain
your attention span.

08:47

Streaming services started in 2015,
I think...

08:51

In Japan, yeah.

08:52

They started much earlier

08:54

in Europe and America.

08:56

It was a hammer blow to
pressing companies like us.

09:00

Really, you thought it
was going to be fatal?

09:02

We were very shocked.

09:04

But in fact in 2015,
our sales actually began to rise.

09:09

In the US, Record Store Day had begun.

09:13

“Listen to vinyl!”
had re-emerged as an idea.

09:17

Japanese musicians, too,
began to say “Listen to us on vinyl!”

09:23

Many people aren't fans of music per se;
they're fans of certain artists.

09:28

So when their favorite band says,
“Listen to us on vinyl,”

09:32

they go out and buy it.

09:34

I guess for a lot of young people,

09:36

who up to a certain point
had never seen a vinyl record,

09:41

and probably didn't even know
what to do with it.

09:43

How to handle it.

09:45

Right.

09:45

How did they know how to play it,
you know?

09:49

In the age of streaming services,
records are a world apart—

09:53

a kind of mysterious black object.

09:57

But here's my view.

09:59

Record players are fiddly.

10:02

You have to adjust all the audio settings.

10:06

And I think people are actually
enjoying that aspect.

10:13

Spending time on something like that
is actually really pleasant.

10:17

And here's another point.

10:19

Recently, we've been
experiencing a pandemic,

10:22

and people have spent more time at home.

10:25

They started to think,
“What's really important in my life?”

10:30

“Is it drinking with colleagues?
Is it going on dates?

10:34

Wait a second...it's actually
being at home, listening to records!”

10:40

In Japan,
records first went on sale in 1903.

10:47

But those records were made elsewhere.

10:53

At that time, no one in Japan
could produce records.

10:57

So they were made in the US,
and shipped over.

11:02

Production began in Japan in 1909.

11:06

Early records featured traditional songs,

11:08

and music from
traditional performing arts.

11:20

Then politicians began using records
to speak about their policy positions.

11:28

Rather than touring the country,

11:30

they could save a lot of trouble
by recording a speech on vinyl

11:34

and distributing it.

11:46

In the 1920s,

11:47

Western jazz and classical music
became especially popular in Japan.

11:55

At a time when few musicians
traveled to Japan,

11:58

records were a way to listen
to world-class performances.

12:03

But that meant access to a gramophone.

12:07

And they cost more than
most people could afford.

12:13

Records themselves were also
too expensive for the average consumer.

12:19

Back then,

12:20

the starting wage for university graduates
was 50 to 60 yen per month.

12:25

One record cost around 1.5 yen.

12:32

This led to the emergence of music cafes,
where customers could listen to records.

12:38

Different cafes specialized in different
music: jazz, or classical, for example.

12:47

When Japan's war years began in the 1930s,

12:51

Japanese records entered
something of a dark age.

12:58

Records featuring music from enemy nations
including the USA and UK were banned.

13:05

It was no longer possible
to listen to them,

13:07

and many music cafes disappeared.

13:13

But when peace returned in 1945,
records helped to lift people's spirits.

13:23

Music cafes reappeared almost immediately.

13:27

Being able to listen to many different
kinds of music

13:31

boosted morale
in the postwar recovery years.

13:37

The 1960s and '70s brought
growing demand for audio equipment.

13:42

More people were listening
to music at home,

13:45

and records became an important
part of everyday life.

13:52

In recent years, Japan's remaining music
cafes have become increasingly popular.

14:00

This longstanding jazz cafe
opened in 1933.

14:05

It doesn't just attract people
who like listening to jazz—

14:09

professional musicians often visit, too.

14:13

It's so nice.

14:15

You can listen to lots of old music.

14:18

And it's all on vinyl.

14:21

This cafe, meanwhile, opened in 1926.

14:24

It specializes in classical music.

14:31

It has huge, made-to-order,
Japanese speakers...

14:37

and two turntables.

14:40

This set-up has been in use
for around 50 years.

14:46

Everyone has their own favorite seat.

14:50

If an earlier customer has taken it,

14:52

they'll sit at the next table and
wait until that person leaves.

14:56

Then they'll move over,
and immerse themselves in classical music.

15:02

In postwar Japan,

15:04

records were expensive, and most people
couldn't afford to buy them.

15:09

Even if they could listen
to music at home,

15:12

the equipment here offered
much more of an experience.

15:17

It feels like attending
a live performance.

15:22

The role of records
has evolved with the times,

15:25

but for over a century,
they have been a source of joy in Japan.

15:33

What about recording facilities?

15:35

At first, Japan didn't have
anything like that.

15:40

Sound engineers from the US
or elsewhere would come over,

15:45

and record in gymnasiums
and spaces like that.

15:49

They'd press the records abroad,
and ship them back to Japan.

15:53

Wow.

15:55

At the time,

15:56

I'd say that record collecting
was something of a luxury hobby.

16:02

I know in the early days of television,

16:04

when not everybody could
afford to buy a TV set,

16:08

they would have a TV in public places,

16:10

and everybody would
gather to watch television.

16:13

I wonder if they had the same thing
with records, 100 years ago.

16:17

Well, records were very expensive.

16:20

People like singing along to music,
of course,

16:22

but some just wanted to listen.

16:26

So in Japan, venues offering
that service began to open.

16:30

There were jazz, classical,
and rock cafes.

16:34

They quickly grew in number.

16:36

I remember there was one in Shibuya...

16:38

getting taken there by a friend one time.

16:40

And we were having a couple of drinks,
and listening to some music.

16:43

And I started talking to my friend,

16:45

and one of the employees
came up and said, “Shh! Quiet!”

16:50

“No talking!”

16:52

Yes, that's usually the rule.

16:54

You're there not to communicate with
people but to commune with the music.

17:00

In Japan

17:01

there are people who really like to focus
on what's coming out of the speakers.

17:05

In the history of recorded music,

17:07

there have been some
unbelievable monster hits.

17:11

I mean, things like
Michael Jackson's Thriller come to mind.

17:15

In Japan, what would it be?

17:18

Japan's best-selling single
sold over 4.5 million copies.

17:24

It's by Shimon Masato,

17:26

and it's called “Oyoge! Taiyaki-kun.”

17:30

Right.

17:32

It sold incredibly well.

17:33

A novelty song.

17:41

The song was featured
in a children's TV program in 1975.

17:47

It became Japan's best-selling single
based on physical sales—

17:51

a title it still holds today.

18:13

The song is about street food
called taiyaki,

18:17

a kind of cake in the shape of a fish.

18:20

A taiyaki pines for the
freedom of the sea.

18:24

In Japan's economic miracle years,

18:26

this idea resonated with millions of
exhausted workers.

18:33

The records were pressed
at the firm our guest works for,

18:36

and the song's success made the company's
own workforce extremely busy!

18:44

The spell that records cast over Japan was
finally broken in 1982 by the advent of

18:51

CDs.

18:53

Japan was the first country
in which compact discs were sold.

18:59

Digital technology
quickly gathered momentum.

19:04

In 2015, streaming services
were launched in Japan.

19:08

Music was easier to access than ever
before, and vinyl's future looked bleak.

19:16

Although conditions remain perilous,
vinyl is far from a lost cause.

19:24

This is the only remaining company in the
world that makes blank lacquer discs.

19:30

They are a crucial element
in record production.

19:34

The blanks are used to produce masters—

19:37

original records from which
others will be made.

19:44

The process starts with one-millimeter
aluminium plates.

19:50

After the metal is carefully checked
for unevenness and blemishes,

19:55

it is coated with nitrocellulose lacquer,
a material similar to nail polish.

20:05

The lacquer is around
0.2 millimeters thick.

20:09

Creating a totally flat and even surface

20:12

requires an extremely
high degree of precision.

20:18

From start to finish, making a batch of
discs takes around a week.

20:27

To turn a blank into a master,
it is cut with a lathe.

20:34

At the facility we've been visiting,
the task is done in-house.

20:42

Let's take a look at
the “cutting” process.

20:48

Audio from a digital source is etched
into the blank master disc.

20:55

This is done by cutting grooves
into the lacquer.

20:59

Record players reproduce music by
running a needle along those grooves.

21:07

Here's a close-up.

21:09

The width of each groove
determines the volume of the sound.

21:14

A wavy line generates a high note.

21:17

A straight line produces a low note.

21:22

The accuracy of audio reproduction
reflects the skill of the engineer.

21:29

The sound from a groove near the edge,
and near the middle, will be different.

21:36

We have to take that into account,

21:37

and produce a master that's
as close as possible to the source.

21:43

After the master is cut,
it is used to create a metal stamper disc,

21:48

which is then used to press vinyl.

21:51

This is how records are mass produced.

22:00

Japan is also a top manufacturer
of record-player needles.

22:05

This company, established in 1940,
makes 90 percent of the world's supply.

22:14

At the tip of each needle
is a piece of diamond—

22:18

the hardest mineral in the world.

22:21

It measures just 0.3 millimeters.

22:27

The needles are polished carefully,
one at a time.

22:33

Then they're checked for
flaws using a microscope.

22:46

Needles that conform to specifications
are installed one by one into cartridges.

23:00

At one point, production levels dropped
to just 100,000 units a month.

23:07

But the vinyl revival sparked a recovery,

23:10

and since then production
has more than tripled.

23:15

This next company developed a turntable

23:19

that can play even damaged or
worn-out records.

23:26

No needle is required!

23:29

Instead, laser beams access
the information etched into a record.

23:38

Imagine this V at the bottom
is a record groove.

23:43

A regular player runs a needle
along the deepest part,

23:46

right at the bottom of the groove.

23:50

That's how it reads and reproduces
audio information.

23:56

But with laser beams, you can get
information near the top of the groove.

24:01

That area has never been touched
by a needle, and so you get a pure sound.

24:09

Let's see how well the technology works.

24:14

The surface of this record is damaged.

24:17

Will it play?

24:31

There's no crackling,
and no danger of the needle skipping.

24:37

Japan's world-class technology
is helping to

24:40

sustain the tradition of listening
to music on vinyl.

24:46

In the second half of the 1980s,

24:48

CDs became prevalent,
and in Japan especially actually,

24:53

it seemed that overnight, the record
companies all stopped making vinyl

24:57

and started making just CDs.

24:59

In fact, in Europe and America,

25:02

they were still making vinyl
for quite a while after that.

25:05

But then vinyl kind of disappears
for quite a while.

25:08

And it was really only in Japan that
people were still making vinyl records,

25:14

and those technologies
continued to the present day.

25:19

Why do you think that was?

25:22

A small number of vinyl
enthusiasts were still buying records.

25:28

Thinking about it
in strictly economic terms,

25:31

the best move would obviously
have been to stop making vinyl.

25:36

But in Japan, that wasn't the only factor.

25:38

And record-making continued.

25:43

Is there any difference in the way
that records are produced

25:47

in Japan versus in other countries?

25:51

The thing that really sets Japan
apart from other countries

25:55

is that most aspects of making
a record happen under one roof.

26:02

Cutting, making a stamper, pressing...

26:06

everything is done in the same building.

26:09

If you want to ask somebody
about a problem,

26:11

you can simply walk over to them.

26:14

So that's the major advantage;

26:15

you can have very minute control over
what happens at each stage of the process.

26:21

Yes, I would say so.

26:24

From an audio quality standpoint,
and from a manufacturing standpoint,

26:29

it's all smooth and steady.

26:31

And I see that as a key feature.

26:34

The vinyl revival has been going on
for a few years now,

26:39

and it seems to be going quite strong.

26:42

Do you think it can last indefinitely?

26:46

Well, we must do our best to build on
the current enthusiasm and make it last.

26:54

The company I work with makes records.

26:57

But we also have needle makers,
lacquer blank makers,

27:00

audio equipment makers, radio stations,
people working in promotion.

27:05

We all need to send the same message:
“Let's listen to high-quality audio!”

27:12

If we don't, the revival will end.

27:14

It's like good food.

27:16

Good audio makes a lasting impact.

27:19

I think the music itself is
the first thing to make an impression.

27:23

But what you notice next is
the way it sounds.

27:28

So we want to make great-sounding records.

27:31

If we abandon that idea,
the whole revival might collapse.

27:36

We have to preserve audio quality.

27:39

But no one can do it on their own.

27:42

We have to unite to support good audio.

27:46

That's how I see it.

27:49

OK, thank you very much.

27:50

Thank you very much.