Art Beyond Cultural Barrier: Chaz Guest / Artist

Prominent American artist Chaz Guest is embarking on a new challenge. He is focusing on Ai, indigo blue, used in indigo dyeing in Japan. The program conveys a message poured into his work.

A Japanese taxi driver painted by Chaz Guest using indigo dye
A self-portrait by Chaz Guest using indigo dye
Chaz Guest painting with indigo dye
Chaz Guest's portrait of an African American boy holding several stems of cotton

Transcript

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Direct Talk

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His distinctive style of painting has often
been described as "profound inventiveness"

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and has been attracting
considerable attention in the art world.

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Meet the American painter Chaz Guest.

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He has painted countless portraits
of anonymous people.

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And his unique style of painting

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that seemingly brings out the depths of the
subjects' hearts has been highly acclaimed.

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I think my way of living is
to explore more how great it is

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just to be a human being in general.

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So I revel in different cultures,
I love culture.

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But I am one not to live inside of one box.

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I live in the box of humanity.

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U.S. President Barack Obama had painting
of Chaz's hanging in the Oval Office.

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And popular TV show host Oprah Winfrey,

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and famous actresses such as
Angelina Jolie are his avowed fans.

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In 2023, he began working
on the creation of a new series.

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He began to use the traditional Japanese dye

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used in aizome, or indigo dyeing,
to produce his paintings.

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He claims to have been strongly
attracted to its delicate blue color.

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Chaz Guest has always effortlessly transcended
cultural barriers in the world of art.

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What kind of thoughts are
put into his works of art?

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Let's take a look
at his message to the world.

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Art Beyond Cultural Barrier

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Chaz Guest continues
his creative work in Los Angeles.

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The creative inspiration for Chaz,

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who became a painter after working
as an illustrator for fashion magazines,

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was his feelings for his
African-American ancestors,

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who were survivors in the American society.

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I love my own culture.

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As an African-American and where we are
from and all of that, what we endured

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and what and how we came to be even today.

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So I come from a line of people
who were always interested in doing

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pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps

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and making the best out of everything.

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And my grandfather, too,

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and mother and father.

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So I come from a very strong line

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of great, strong people.

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I love exploring cultures, right.

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But it felt like I couldn't really get into
telling somebody else's culture

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without first really diving into mine

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fully, you know?

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for anything to start,
you got to go to the root.

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And so the root here in America
was slavery and the cotton fields.

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And so I wanted to bring about
these are in the visuals that I painted.

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I wanted to the get into their soul

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and then depict them on the canvas.

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Chaz began painting
the images of his ancestors

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who worked as slaves
in the cotton fields of America.

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He thought about the life of
each individual that he depicted.

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And, you know, it was really interesting,

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all of my friends, because
I have friends from all walks of life,

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when they looked at these paintings,
they said that

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it reminded them of their mother
or their grandmother or their grandfather.

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They could be Asian or European or whoever.

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And I was like,
that was the indication for me

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that I have painted humanity.

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I have exceeded the color
that you see on the canvas,

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and I've actually painted humanity by that.

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Chaz Guest is now also involved in
creative activities in Japan.

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When he was a teenager, he started karate,

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and became interested in
Japanese bushido and traditional culture.

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Then, in 2023, he had an encounter
that would change everything.

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It was during a visit to an indigo-dyeing
workplace in Tokushima Prefecture.

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The group that he visited
was working to introduce

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the wonders of traditional indigo farming
and dyeing to the world.

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The delicate blue color of the
fabric products he encountered there

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was unlike anything he had ever seen before.

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That color is very interesting

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I'm always seeking to, like,

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do other things, like explore other mediums,
investigate other things.

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And especially when it comes to color,
finding colors.

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A few months ago,
we were invited to Tokushima by a friend.

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And to my great surprise,

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when we went on this farm,
this indigo farm, BUAISOU,

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it just like, completely
captivated my imagination

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with how they came about coming to this color

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from the ground, from the seeds,

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from the harvest,
from the drying of the leaves, the mixture,

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the whole concoction
is just absolutely fascinating.

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Chaz found out firsthand

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that the indigo dye-making process
is an unimaginably long one.

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I saw them make that beautiful blue dye

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from the dirt

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and seeds.

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I saw the seeds.

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I saw them planting for the next season

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from that dirt,
these green, beautiful flowers.

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And then they harvest them.

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They even have to keep
the bugs off of the leaves.

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That's so much work.
It's too much work.

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And if you see a piece of indigo clothing
that you like, just buy it.

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Don't worry about the price they work for it.

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Trust me, nobody is going to do it.

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They have the leaves and then
they dry them out and then

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they still air them out and then
they would have got ferment them.

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Then they start putting the

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the water, alkaline water,

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the brand, you know, like oat

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because it's alive.

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You can only dye
a couple of pieces at a time,

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because it's breathing.

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Even when I dyed some stuff,
it was on my fingers for a month.

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And I was just like, I got to see
how I can paint with this stuff.

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Chaz began working with
two types of dyes for his artworks.

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One was the extract from
a fresh Tade-Ai leaf, indigo plant.

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With this, he would paint
a delicate blue color.

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The other was a traditional indigo dye.

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When painted on canvas, it appears brown.

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He combined it with the blue color to create
changes in expression of the people he drew.

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Chaz showed us
one of his completed portraits.

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This piece depicts a taxicab driver.

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By using a variety of subtle blue colors,

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he was able to express
the driver's most inner feelings.

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I brought about this subject
of the taxi driver

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who...

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I just felt I felt him
very interesting as a character.

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This was in Tokushima.

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and this was his job and
this was his life he took pride in.

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And this one thing that he does for his life.

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This is one of the craftsmen
at the indigo dyeing studio.

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He is depicted as a powerful figure,
silently continuing his work.

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Chaz and Japan.

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These works are the result
of the fusion of two cultures.

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What he considered most important
in the creation of his works

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was what he called the "commonality"
as human beings.

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I'm the kind of guy that would always
love to bring our likenesses together

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instead of our differences.

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So basically, we're all the same. Right.

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If you stripped off our skin,

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we're like this skeletal thing
with a brain with two big eyeballs,

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like golf ball eyeballs,
brain spinal column with nervous system,

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you look like an alien, right.

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And then you put, like, this meat suit on,
and then you look slap a color on.

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You might like do something,
this is the same stuff

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and this sort of like
what, you think you're better than me.

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I just don't get it.

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I just think with my brain,

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the brain that I've been given

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and its function,

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it's like the things that you miss out
on with that nonsense.

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And so I've always had
the kind of imagination that would,

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what if we didn't have that?

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If we weren't privy to that and
we just moved along as human beings,

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how amazing that would be.

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"The power of art can transcend
cultural and racial barriers."

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And it was this strong conviction of Chaz's
that opened the door to a new project.

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It was the "World Art Project."

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Since visiting the West African
country of Gambia in 2010,

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Chaz has been interacting with children
from all over the world through art.

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Through his activities,

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he had something that he wanted to convey
to children living in poverty and conflict.

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I think it's easier to be

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evil

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and less than

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I think it's harder to
walk the road of righteousness

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or divinity.

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If you can imagine

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the spirit of good.

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That's what my mother
used to always tell me.

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And now it's matured in my body.

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My mother used to say,
we are under the spirits

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of two powers.

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It's good and evil.

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She always said that.

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But the older I get,
the more I can not only see it,

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but it's just true.

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And again, we come from a people

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that had to rely on hope.

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So if you ask me that, I'm going to say
you just keep trying to do your best.

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If you're blessed to wake up,
you just go for the good

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and then you will be free from slavery.

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Chaz's dream for the future
is to create a place

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where children from all over the world
who participated in the project

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can interact with one another through art.

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I love children. I love to see
their pure approach to things.

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And if I'm in Mexico, if I'm in the Gambia,
West Africa or Senegal or

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or even Japan, I have gathered some children.

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Well, where else?
Oh, in in France. You know.

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I think that one day it'll all come together
as the World Art Project.

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On this day, Chaz completed a painting of a
jazz band, which he painted with indigo dye.

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One can only wonder what will be created
next by his brimming imagination.

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"Thank you very much."

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We will have to keep a watchful eye
on his activities.

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At the end of the interview,

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Chaz Guest shared with us
some of his most important words.

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"Life is an art form."
"Learn how to live."

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Because life is so beautiful
as beautiful as art.

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And if you want to
have this life as an art form,

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one must learn how to live.

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Put that in your pipe and smoke it.