
In India, sanitary products are uncommon. Saathi makes pads from banana fiber, supplying women who lack access. Co-founder, Kristin Kagetsu discusses sustainable solutions for menstrual issues.
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Direct Talk
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The women of India not only
face issues with class discrimination -
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but also with feminine hygiene issues.
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In particular goods like
sanitary napkins are costly -
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and hard to find.
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Only 36% of menstruating women use them,
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while some are unaware that they exist.
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Many sanitary products also include plastics.
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So, if 100% of women were to use them,
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they could become a
major source of pollution. -
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With all this in mind
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a startup has developed a new kind of pad.
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We created it because we wanted to make sure
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that we're addressing lack of access to
menstrual products, but in a sustainable way. -
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The pads are made with banana fiber.
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When buried, they naturally decompose
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and cause no soil contamination.
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Co-founder of the company, Kristin Kagetsu
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shares her thoughts on sustainable solutions
for feminine hygiene issues. -
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Sustainable Pads Empower Indian Women
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Ahmedabad in the western
Indian province of Gujarat. -
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The growing industrial city is the location
for many overseas enterprises. -
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This modern office building is
Kagetsu's company headquarters. -
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The sustainable sanitary products they make
are sold domestically at eco-friendly shops -
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and available online in places
like North America and Asia. -
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The company name,
Saathi, means "friend" in Hindi. -
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The aim being to be
both woman and eco-friendly. -
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Tarun Bothra
Co-Founder -
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In 2015,
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Kagetsu founded the company
with a like-minded partner. -
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The lack of access to sanitary products
for Indian women serving -
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as their motivation.
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When you don't have access to
sanitary pads, you'll use other means. -
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So maybe it's like old cloths
or things like that. -
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And the issue with the cloth is not that
it's a cloth, but about how do you wash it. -
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So with old cloths,
if you don't keep it out in the sun, -
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it won't get sanitized,
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and that was one of the main problems.
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Why wouldn't people
hang it out to dry in the sun -
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is because there is a taboo.
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So the taboo is there.
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And then women feel like
if they're going to hang it out to dry, -
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then the neighbor will see and then
the neighbor will talk and things like that. -
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And another kind of issue that we're
looking at is not just lack of access, -
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but also some of the other infections and
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things that people face for
using these unhygienic options. -
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So sometimes it's not even old rags.
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Maybe it would... might even be soil, ash,
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or anything else that's available,
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and these can cause infections.
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The third issue,
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then one of the things is, if you don't have
access to these sanitary pads, -
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then you're less mobile.
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You can't go to work or go to school,
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and these kind of hinder you
in the long term. -
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If you can't go to school every month
for five days, three days, or seven days, -
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then you're missing so much time.
You fall behind. -
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In the US, something that is a
basic necessity in a way, -
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like, that you see everywhere.
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It's accessible through the pharmacy,
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through pretty much any shop
or grocery store, even. -
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And seeing that many women
and girls didn't have access, -
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yeah, it was heartbreaking,
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like something that
you really can't imagine, almost. -
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Kagetsu is an Asian-American born
and raised in New York City. -
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I'm half Chinese, half Japanese,
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raised in New York City.
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We had the Indian babysitter,
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and so she would also,
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kind of, introduce us to all the
other kinds of food and everything. -
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I think I grew up, like, mixed in that way,
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like having all three of
the cultures mixed together. -
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She was admitted to MIT.
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But she wasn't so much interested in
subjects like computer programing, -
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as she was driven to find practical
solutions to pressing social problems. -
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I had worked on a project in
waste management and recycling. -
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I worked on a project in plastic
bottle recycling and things like that. -
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And those were the kind of projects I like
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because they're helping to maybe solve
some problems that people are facing. -
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And then my final project,
I got to come to India actually -
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and work on a product with
the local NGO in Uttarakhand, -
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and we were making natural-dye crayons.
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So they were focused on textile dyeing,
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and they had a lot of pigments left over,
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and they wanted to use the pigments
for making some product for kids. -
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And so I helped them develop that recipe,
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but all of the goals for every project
that they work on, and have students work on, -
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is to improve people's life or
livelihoods or something like that. -
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That's something I wanted to do.
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After graduation, she was determined to
find some way to help people in India, -
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a place familiar to her since childhood.
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She was hoping to address women's
lack of access to sanitary goods. -
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When she met her future business partner,
they got straight to work. -
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Basically we wanted to
understand the whole problem -
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and see if we can come up with one of
the best solutions for that same problem -
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and not create more problems later.
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So we discussed quite
a bit amongst ourselves: -
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How are we going to do it?
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What are the options available?
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How do we, kind of, make machinery?
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We also had that concept at the beginning.
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We thought maybe we'll make these
machines, bring those to a village setting, -
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and women self-help groups
will make the product themselves. -
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But that's not necessarily the most effective way for us to, kind of, contribute to the problem.
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But as we develop a solution,
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we saw like...
when we went to visit the village, -
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we saw different situations.
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So, for example,
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if we bring in just regular pads
with the plastic and all of that, -
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then where are they going to
throw them after they use them? -
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So if you bring a
plastic-or-chemical-filled pad -
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to a rural area or village
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which has no landfill or anything,
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then those pads will just
end up around the community -
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or in the water, in the local
water bodies and things like that, -
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and then it will pollute those areas.
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And so, then, again
it causes other health issues. -
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So we decided we're going to
try and make these pads -
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completely biodegradable and compostable.
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And at the time, it was not something
other people were looking into. -
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After a lot of trial and error,
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they settled on banana fiber,
widely available -
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and extremely absorbent,
as the base material. -
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They also developed a proprietary technique
for the pad's manufacture. -
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We spent maybe two years developing
before selling anything. -
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So our first pad,
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yes, you can say that design did have,
like, just the banana fiber core. -
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And then we took more time to
figure out how to replace all the layers -
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because we hadn't settled on
the business model. -
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So once we took that time,
we were able to replace every layer. -
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And in terms of the banana fiber,
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some of the good qualities is that it's
one of the most absorbent natural fibers, -
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and therefore the pads are
just as absorbent as your regular pads -
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that you would get in the market.
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A lot of the people we wanted to work with.
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They said we should either focus on
addressing the lack of access -
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or we should focus on
addressing the sustainability, -
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but not do both together.
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And we were very stubborn to,
kind of, commit to both of those things -
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because we saw it as a full-cycle solution.
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We didn't want to separate them
because they're pretty much interlinked. -
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We also wanted to have as much impact
even built into our supply chain. -
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So it benefits farmers in that
this is something already -
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they have to cut down the tree
every harvest anyway. -
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And once they cut the tree down,
then it's a waste material, -
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like they need to remove it from the land.
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So this is something which we are using.
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So we're purchasing, kind of,
their waste material for our use. -
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So they're able to get
additional income for that. -
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So not only will they
get income for the fruit, -
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which they sell to the vendors,
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but also, they'll be getting income for
materials they don't use anymore. -
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In the factory, as a
further means of empowerment, -
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local women are employed
as production workers. -
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This woman began work here
through her sister-in-law. -
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Before, she hadn't known that
sanitary products even existed. -
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Since I started using pads
my health is better. -
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Housework is easy
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and going out is also no problem.
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Yes, I feel my health is much better,
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I feel like, I have more power over my life.
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Once they are using the pads
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and they're feeling like
it's a more comfortable experience, -
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they don't get rashes,
irritation, other discomfort. -
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They're also able to be more mobile
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and go to school or go to work.
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Women that we work with have
also increased their use of pads, -
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but also they've told us that now that
they have started working with Saathi, -
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they're able to provide...
they're able to get additional income, -
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which means they're able to
send their daughters to school, -
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so they're having more impact
that way as well. -
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In an effort to overcome taboos
surrounding menstruation, -
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they also hold workshops.
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But this comes with its own difficulties.
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I would say, in terms of making people aware,
there's a few different challenges. -
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One is, of course,
the openness to conversation. -
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And once you're open to the conversation,
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then of course we have to
discuss about some things -
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which maybe people aren't comfortable with -
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and there's always something in society
which people are not comfortable with. -
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But I think this is one of the things which
it's a natural process in our body, -
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which is something...
that we're trying to break that barrier -
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because it's not necessarily something
that people should be ashamed of, -
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or that people have to
hide or something like this, -
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because it happens to everyone
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or like, all women and girls
and other menstruators, -
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and it's not something
we have to be hiding, I guess. -
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Saathi distributes pads free of charge
to women lacking access, -
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paid for by contributions from partner
companies and NGOs working for social change. -
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So one of our previous goals was to...
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like, when we first started Saathi, one of
our goals was to distribute one million pads. -
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And so this year, we're very excited
to have achieved that goal. -
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So we've distributed one million pads
to women in underserved areas. -
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And our new goal is
to reach ten million women. -
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So that's one of our goals for the future.
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And in doing that, we'll be able to eliminate
18,000 metric tons of plastic waste. -
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So these are some of
our goals for the future. -
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When we first started Saathi,
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at that time only maybe 16% of women
had access to sanitary pads, -
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and now it's more like 36%.
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So even over those years
it's grown quite a lot. -
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Even as more women use pads,
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the environmental impact is minimized.
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Banana fiber is used to produce pads.
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The pads go to the users.
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After use the pads biodegrade,
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and in 6 months become compost,
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returning to the soil.
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The cycle of manufacturing in harmony with
the environment she had envisioned made real. -
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We asked Kagetsu to
sum up her vision in writing. -
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"Banana pads that are good for the body,
the community, and the environment." -
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Banana pads that are good for the body,
the community, and the environment. -
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I guess our vision for Saathi is that
we're creating a systemic change -
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in the way menstrual hygiene is addressed,
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and that means we're making sanitary pads
from materials that are natural, -
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don't contain any plastic,
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no chemicals,
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and we're doing this in a
sustainable and responsible way. -
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I think one of the things is that,
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in the future, we're going to be looking for
new models of how we can produce products, -
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not just our products but other products too,
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whether it's furniture
or any kind of products. -
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How do we make those sustainably?
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How do we, kind of,
live symbiotically with nature -
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and create a more positive environment?
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And at the same time, we want to maintain
good relationships also with the community. -
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Banana pads that are good for the body,
the community, and the environment.