
Sir Mark Lowcock, former UN Relief Chief, has worked for nearly 40 years in international development policy and global humanitarian issues.
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Direct Talk
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Today, around 50 million people in 45 countries
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are facing the threat of famine.
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War and conflicts across the world,
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rising food, fuel and fertiliser costs,
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as well as droughts and flooding
caused by climate change -
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are adding to the risk of
more famines into the future. -
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Particularly in parts of the Middle East
and some countries in Africa. -
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Sir Mark Lowcock is
often called "The Relief Chief" -
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because for four years - till 2021 -
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he served at United Nations as
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Under-Secretary-General
for Humanitarian Affairs -
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and Emergency Relief Coordinator
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After a long career
as a British civil servant, -
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specialising in international development
and humanitarian issues, -
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he took up this leading role at the UN in 2017.
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And it was in this
four-year period of his career -
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that he was witness to the biggest explosion
in humanitarian need in modern history. -
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Direct Talk met him at his home in London,
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to hear what his decades on the front line
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have taught him about famine
and the current global food crisis. -
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So what we have now is the worst food crisis
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globally the world has seen for many decades.
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It predates the Ukraine war,
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we had very high food prices,
coming into the beginning of 2022, -
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we had the effects of conflict,
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particularly the Horn of Africa,
the Sahel, parts of the Middle East, -
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we had drought -
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Somalia, to give one example,
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is in its fourth or fifth year of drought,
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that comes from climate change,
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and we had the fact that these poor countries
were dragged down by the covid pandemic, -
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so their economies contracted,
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people didn't have incomes,
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there was less food available,
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but they had less money to access it as well,
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so for the first time now
for many, many years, decades, -
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we face a threat of famines
re-emerging in multiple countries: -
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Somalia,
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Ethiopia,
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part of the Sahel,
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Yemen, Afghanistan,
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if we're not careful,
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we could see mass starvation with
millions of people starving to death -
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in those countries and other places too.
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All of human history
has been characterized by famines -
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in different countries across the world.
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But in recent years, famines had decreased
due to better living standards -
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new technologies, and
more help from aid agencies. -
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So, when I was born, in 1962,
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the majority of human beings on the planet,
more than 50% of them, -
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were in the most extreme poverty, living on
the equivalent of less than a dollar a day, -
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so all those people were basically hungry...
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most of the time.
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They watched their children die in infancy,
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they were unable to send
their children to school, -
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many women died in childbirth,
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and life expectancy was much, much lower.
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And then there was a huge burst of progress,
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largely to do with science and technology
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developed in North America and Europe
spreading round the world, -
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countries adopting almost universally
market-based economic systems, -
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the end of the cold war,
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and what all that produced
was higher living standards -
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and fewer numbers of people
who couldn't get enough food to eat. -
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So we moved from a position where
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more than half of humanity
was at risk of starvation -
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to a position where less than 10% were.
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But today the world risks losing all the
progress it has made in preventing famines. -
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As over the last five to six years,
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a perfect storm of catastrophic events
has taken place. -
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Most devastating has been
the war between Russia and Ukraine -
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which between them supplies
almost a third of the world's wheat. -
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According to the World Food Programme,
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in the past two years,
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the number of people facing food insecurity
around the world has more than doubled -
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to 276 million.
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So we made that enormous progress in the yeas
basically from 1960 to 2010 or 2015, -
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but what's happened in the
last six or seven or eight years -
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is it's started to unravel and
things have started to go backwards. -
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And there's three main reasons for that.
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The first is the spread, again, of conflict,
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particularly in Africa and the Middle East
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and now we see in Ukraine.
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The second reason is the
growing impact of climate change, -
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we're seeing more droughts and
longer droughts and more severe droughts, -
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but also at the same time we're seeing
very violent and vicious storms. -
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And then the third thing has been
the effects of the pandemic. -
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The pandemic writ its destruction
above all in the very poorest countries. -
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Where rich countries were able to
pump money into their economies -
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to keep everybody with an income
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and to enable everybody to survive,
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the poorest countries couldn't do that,
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and so people who were already poor
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were dragged right down
to the verge of starvation. -
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And because we've seen
food prices go right up -
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because droughts have reduced harvests
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and because conflict,
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as we've seen in Ukraine, has stopped some,
grain production coming onto the market, -
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food prices go up,
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people are very poor, they can't afford food,
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and that's what's created this risk of
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a resumption, a return to that
horrible terrible scourge of famine, -
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which we'd almost got rid of
from the human condition. -
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Having spent so many years meeting people
on the front line of disasters, -
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Mark has learned ways to cope with the misery
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that he comes face to face with in his work
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travelling to the most desperate
parts of the world. -
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Knowing that he could be useful,
that things can improve, -
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really helped him deal with his own feelings.
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Well, you do meet people in really
desperate situations when you travel, -
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you know, through war zones
or in famine zones -
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or places destroyed by storms
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and you listen to people.
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People weep and shake
as they tell their stories -
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and they are quite emotional encounters
you have with people, -
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and unforgettable, really.
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But you also see
some really inspiring things, -
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you see the power of hope in humanity,
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you see generosity and kindness,
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and you see the possibility
that things can improve. -
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And what I try to do is
hold onto the thing I've learnt -
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over 40 years doing this kind of work,
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that yes, there is often a lot of suffering
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and it's extreme and brutal and painful,
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but also there is kindness
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and also things can get better.
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This year, Mark published a book
about his experiences called -
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"The Relief Chief."
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One of the themes in the book is
about the need for more forward thinking, -
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and different types of financial planning
to avoid the return of famines. -
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I'd had this experience
of trying to coordinate -
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all this work to save
people's lives and so on -
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and what I'd seen is the
aid agencies do a fantastic job, -
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they reach 100 million people a year,
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they certainly save millions of lives a year,
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but through this period of
mounting crisis and problems -
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they were increasingly overwhelmed.
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Well, there's many, many ideas in the book,
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but they fall into a few categories.
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The first category is,
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lots of these crises,
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droughts,
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storms,
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you get some notice of.
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So if you act before they arrive
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you can have a much cheaper response,
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reduce suffering, and save lives and so on,
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and there's lots of technologies
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and lots of financial instruments now,
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like insurance and contingency financing
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which you can use much better than
agencies use them at the moment. -
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The second thing is
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we know the kinds of people who will
always be most vulnerable in these crises, -
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so women and girls,
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people with disabilities,
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but we haven't systematically made sure
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we always focus on those kinds of people
right from the outset. -
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So we'd do a much better job if we would
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use the knowledge we have
about who is going to be vulnerable. -
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And the third thing we can do is
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the very simple thing of
asking people caught up in crises -
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what help you actually want,
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and then giving people
what they say they want. -
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And unfortunately that happens very rarely,
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most of the conversations on what to do
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happens between the aid agencies
and the people who give them money. -
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So, you know, people get provided with
commodities or food or shelter or something -
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and if it's not what they want
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they then go and sell it in the market
and buy things they do want, -
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In the short term
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Mark would like to see some immediate rapid
responses from governments around the world -
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to address the current
food crisis that is escalating. -
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So, what do we do to deal with
this huge food crisis? -
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There are basically four things
we need to do straight away. -
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The first is to get more grain
onto the markets, -
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this deal that's been done recently
to allow 20 million tons of grain, -
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enough for 400 million people,
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out from the silos of the Ukrainian cities
on the Black Sea – Odesa and so on – -
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that can make a big difference
if that deal is stuck to. -
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Probably we should do
some other things as well, though, -
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like countries,
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the US, China, India, which have
big strategic grain reserves, -
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should allow some of that grain
onto the market, -
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and the effect of that would be
to allow prices to come down. -
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Alongside that,
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because fertiliser markets
have also been affected by the war, -
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we need to access from other places
the raw materials for fertiliser. -
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So that the second thing, increase supply.
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The third thing is to
recognise that some countries, -
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simply don't have access to enough money,
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enough financial resources,
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to go onto the grain markets,
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they don't produce enough food
to feed their populations themselves, -
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so they have to import,
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if they don't have any money
they can't import the food necessary, -
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so they need more help,
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financial help of the sort that was
provided in the 2007-8 financial crisis, -
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from the International Monetary Fund,
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the World Bank, other kinds of
organizations like that. -
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And then fourthly,
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there's a group of countries
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where the risk is highest of
millions of people starving to death, -
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and those are countries which are
entirely reliant, to avoid that problem, -
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on the aid agencies,
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the World Food Programme,
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the Red Cross,
the international NGOs and so on, -
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and what needs to happen there is these
aid agencies need to be given more money -
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so that they can afford to buy enough grain,
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ship it to these countries,
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and give it out in the way
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that they traditionally have done
to avoid these terrible famines, -
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to people who are
literally starving to death. -
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Mark also believes that
in some developing countries, -
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their economies which are
based on agriculture -
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will have to adapt to the changes
created by climate change. -
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The world does need to
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reducing the rate at
which the climate is changing, -
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reducing global warming,
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at the same time, though,
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countries are going to need to adapt
and evolve their economies -
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so that those countries,
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for example in the Sahel in Africa,
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which are very reliant
on rain-fed agriculture -
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or on pasture for their animals,
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livelihoods which probably won't be viable
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given the way the climate is
definitely going to change now, -
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people will need other forms of livelihood.
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Now, the good news is
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that transition
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from one form of livelihood to another has
happened almost everywhere across the world -
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in the last 100 or 150 or 200 years,
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starting here in the UK
with the agricultural revolution. -
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There is no reason why
the same transition can't happen -
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in those few places where
it hasn't happened so far, -
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like the Sahel and other parts of Africa,
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and it needs to.
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Mark believes that as most of the
problems in many countries today -
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have an international dimension to them,
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whether it's climate change,
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or migration,
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or even how the international economy works,
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it is in everyone's interest to co-operate
in this current global food crisis -
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Well, I think climate change is a
big driver of problems into the future, -
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but in a way the bigger question is
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how are countries going to
collaborate with each other, -
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in other words, the bigger question is global
governance and collaboration between leaders. -
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unfortunately, we're entering a period
where the big powerful countries, -
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the US, China, Russia,
some European countries, -
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are finding it more difficult to collaborate
with each other in their own interests, -
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there's more arguments,
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we see what's happening in Ukraine,
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we see all the tensions over Taiwan,
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ultimately countries are going to need to
work out a way to manage their differences -
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and find common approaches to deal with
the things that they're all threatened by, -
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climate change being the biggest example.
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And one of the things about
the United Nations is that -
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it provides a forum in which people
can at least have the discussions -
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and find out the things
that they are able to agree on, -
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even if there are some
other things they disagree on. -
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There is no question that
we're in a more tense phase now, -
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but the only way out of that phase
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is by dialogue, discussion, collaboration.
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Mark remains an optimist
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in spite of the desperate hardship he has
witnessed across the world's trouble spots. -
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He has seen at first hand,
the good outcomes that can be achieved, -
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when the right solutions are offered
to people facing hardship and hunger. -
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My observation is that we've made
huge progress over the last 60 years, -
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more than at any other time in the
150,000 years of human experience, -
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and although we face big challenges now,
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we should take confidence from the fact
that we have made this enormous progress -
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and redouble our efforts
to solve these problems -
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because things can improve
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if we only pay attention and
focus and do the right things. -
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The people caught up in these crises are
exactly the same as all the rest of us, -
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they have the same hopes,
aspirations, fears, suffering, -
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they're just like us,
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the only difference is
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life's lottery has been cruel to them,
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has been kinder to us,
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so we should offer a
helping hand to them in this -
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extreme moment of crisis.
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Work together to fight famine.