
How and when will Belarus, long ruled by the iron hand of a dictator, achieve democracy? Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, the exiled Belarus opposition leader, talks to us from Lithuania.
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Direct Talk
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For almost 30 years,
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Belarus has remained under the control of
President Lukashenko's authoritarian regime. -
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In opposition to this,
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Svetlana Tikhanovskaya
ran for president in 2020, -
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calling for democratization.
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I am tired of being silent.
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I am tired of being afraid.
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President Alexander Lukashenko
who won his sixth consecutive term -
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It was declared that
President Lukashenko had been re-elected. -
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Seven thousand protestors who claimed the
election had been rigged were imprisoned, -
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and Svetlana was forced to leave the country.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin
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The Russian government,
which backs the Lukashenko administration, -
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has also joined the ranks
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and put her on its international wanted list.
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Having fled to Lithuania,
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Svetlana continues to work
with Western countries -
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to call for democracy in Belarus.
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We must restore everything
that's been destroyed in the last 27 years. -
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Confronting "Europe's Last Dictator"
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Since fleeing Belarus,
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Svetlana has been working
from a small office in Vilnius, -
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in the neighboring country of Lithuania.
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Tikhanovskaya's office
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The Belarusian democracy representation
she leads has been accredited -
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by the Lithuanian Ministry
of Foreign Affairs. -
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Against the backdrop of so many people
desiring the democratization of Belarus, -
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Svetlana continues to meet
dignitaries from various countries. -
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In addition, she works closely with
international human rights organizations -
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to resolve the plight
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Well, we cannot issue any visas.
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In reality,
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diplomatic representation
gives us the opportunity -
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to be represented at the
diplomatic level in other countries -
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and to work more closely with embassies.
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We now have access to any embassy
and to any international structure. -
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The range of work is very wide,
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from helping the families
of political prisoners, -
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to helping those people
who have left the country, -
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to maintaining the union
of democratic forces, -
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and the promotion of the Belarusian
agenda at the international level, -
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and, of course, the fight against the regime.
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My main task is to be
the voice of the Belarusians -
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in the international arena.
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So my job is to be like an umbrella,
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so that people work together,
with one agenda. -
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Our agenda hasn't changed since 2020:
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the release of all political prisoners,
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stopping repression,
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and holding new, fair elections.
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As a matter of fact,
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the Belarusians know
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that the majority of Belarusians
voted for me in the elections of 2020. -
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But I didn't declare myself at the
international level as the president, -
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because that wouldn't really change anything.
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A dictator only holds power by force.
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Therefore, the Belarusians call me
the leader of democratic Belarus, -
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the leader of the opposition,
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the leader of the new Belarus, and so on.
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But, in fact, it makes little difference
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It's what you do that matters.
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Svetlana Tikhanovskaya
was born in Belarus in 1982 -
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during the time of the former Soviet Union.
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Svetlana Tikhanovskaya
1982 Born in Belarus -
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She was 10 when the Soviet Union collapsed.
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Some former Soviet countries
became democratic -
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but Belarus remained a Russian ally.
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Svetlana Tikhanovskaya
1982 Born in Belarus
1991 Collapse of the Soviet Union -
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As a student, she helped children
affected by the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. -
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Then she worked as an English interpreter
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before getting married
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Svetlana Tikhanovskaya
1982 Born in Belarus
1991 Collapse of the Soviet Union
2004 Graduated from Mozyr State Pedagogical University
Worked as an English interpreter
2005 Married Sergei Tikhanovsky -
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In 2020, her dissident blogger husband,
Sergei, ran for president, -
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but he was arrested and imprisoned
three months before voting day. -
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So Svetlana ran in his place at short notice.
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However, the authorities
announced that the incumbent -
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President Lukashenko had been re-elected.
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Citizens protested, claiming
that the election was rigged. -
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However, the protests
were thoroughly suppressed, -
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and Svetlana was forced to leave the country.
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August 19, 2020
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In response, the EU immediately announced
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that it would not accept
the results of the presidential election. -
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So first of all,
I ran in place of my husband, -
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who was disqualified from
being a presidential candidate -
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because he had become,
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shall we say, "dangerous" to the dictator.
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I did it out of love for my husband.
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My first step was only for my husband.
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I didn't think about
the future of the country, -
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I didn't think about revolution, and so on.
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But when it became clear that hundreds of
thousands of Belarusians were involved, -
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there was a feeling that people had woken up,
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and I was just one of the awakened people.
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Even now, two years after the election,
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the number of dissidents arrested by
the regime shows no sign of decline. -
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The regime also suspended dissident
media outlets as extremist organizations -
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and detained more than 100 journalists.
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Through social networking services,
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the voices of Belarusian citizens
are delivered to Svetlana. -
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Today I spoke with a girl who said,
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"I am calling from hell."
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I thought she was calling from Ukraine,
where the battle is going on, -
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but she was calling from Minsk.
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I fully realized
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that Belarus is now perceived as hell.
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She tries to listen to
all the comments like this -
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and respond with messages of hope.
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Tikhanovskaya's official Instagram
Results of our visit to Portugal:
facilitated migration, visas,
support for our European perspective. -
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Tikhanovskaya's official Instagram
Anyone is welcome to talk to me and my team. -
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We are primarily relying on digital tools
of some kind to communicate with... -
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that is... to coordinate our actions
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and create pressure points on the regime.
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In fact, I try to communicate
with Belarusians -
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who are inside Belarus every day,
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so as not to lose touch with reality.
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Because sometimes everything seen from abroad
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seems much different than it really is.
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And for me it's very important to hear
the problems that Belarusians have. -
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I try to spend maximum time on this.
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It's happening on social networks, through
Telegram channels, and in real life as well. -
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Every week I have what I call "office hours,"
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when Belarusians can come to me
with their problems and questions. -
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And there are really many questions,
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ranging from, "When will we win?"
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to "Svetlana, I am so glad to see you,
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I love you, I have no questions."
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I mean, you know,
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the most important thing
is this exchange of energy. -
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It's as important for me
to communicate with people -
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as it is for people to understand
that no one has given up, -
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that the fight is still going on.
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Since Svetlana started her
steady outreach to the Belarusian nation, -
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the movement for democratization
has not spread outwardly. -
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According to the results of a survey
conducted by a British research institute, -
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the approval rating for
Lukashenko's authoritarian -
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regime continues to remain at around 27%.
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I think that it depends,
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everything depends on the person who comes
into power in a window of opportunity: -
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Other countries happened to have democratic leaders take over as head of state.
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In Belarus we probably weren't so lucky.
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Lukashenko, who was completely pro-Soviet
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and valued Soviet methods,
took over as head of state. -
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Since then
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he has built a very strong
fear machine around himself. -
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And so the regime always survives on fear;
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it survives thanks to violence.
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When people live in constant fear
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that any answer to an
inconvenient question will result in, -
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say, a prison sentence,
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then of course people are sometimes inclined
to give the wrong answers to questions. -
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They realize that there may be
consequences behind them. -
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So asking people if they trust
Lukashenko is out of the question. -
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Fear can manipulate people's answers
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And one of the main tasks
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is to communicate with those
who are still supporters of the regime. -
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Of course, it is not a
one-on-one conversation, -
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because such people will
never come to communicate. -
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But by providing explanations through
social networks and other means, -
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we try to involve that audience as well.
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We try to tell them
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how our country may look like
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when we have democracy,
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when people will take responsibility
for some decisions, -
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that the government will then make.
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And, we have to look for more and more new
methods of work and explanations, you know, -
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about how can our country develop,
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what path it should take if we have a
governor who is not thinking about himself, -
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not about his benefits,
but thinking about us, the people, -
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and create a comfortable
working environment with decent wages. -
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How will our towns and villages look,
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when the leader actually thinks about us,
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not about his own enrichment.
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And in such very small steps,
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I hope that people,
maybe unconsciously, will come. -
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Here there's more emphasis
on teaching, on education. -
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President Lukashenko follows President Putin.
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Belarus conducted joint military exercises
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with Russia prior to the
Russian invasion of Ukraine. -
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While Western countries have declared
their support for Ukraine, -
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Belarus continues to support Russia.
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President Lukashenko even changed
the Belarusian constitution -
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to allow Russia to bring in nuclear weapons,
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just before President Putin
hinted at their use. -
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In response, Svetlana
appealed to the Belarusian public. -
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Tikhanovskaya's official Instagram
Lukashenko is helping to
fight this war with our taxes. -
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We understand
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that the future of Belarus
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may also depend on the results of this war.
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Because Lukashenko has become
a collaborator in this war. -
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He offered our territories to attack Ukraine.
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The Lukashenko regime now,
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and Lukashenko himself in particular,
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is paying a debt to the Kremlin for
the fact that it supported him after 2020. -
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And Lukashenko, as a puppet,
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has to do what he is told from the Kremlin.
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We try in every way we can
to help Ukrainians to win this war. -
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Because when Ukraine wins,
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it means that the
Kremlin will be in a weak position -
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and Lukashenko will be in a weak position.
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And then we will have a window of
opportunity to overthrow the regime. -
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Svetlana believes that the Lukashenko regime
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will grow weary of supporting Russia
as the war in Ukraine drags on. -
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She says she is waiting for that moment.
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I will go back to Belarus
at the moment when I feel the regime -
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is at its weakest point.
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Whether it will be safe or
dangerous is another question. -
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But when a wave of Belarusians
against the regime rises again, -
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when we have a lot of tools
to overthrow the regime, -
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if my presence in Belarus is necessary,
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I will go.
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Probably without my children,
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because there could be
any kind of consequences. -
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But I must fulfill my mission till the end
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During the election campaign,
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I promised the Belarusians
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that my role would be to lead
our country to new, fair elections -
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together with the Belarusians.
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Because many candidates
were in prison during the election. -
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And then during these new elections,
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the Belarusians will be able to
choose a new president. -
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At the moment, I'm not planning to
run in a new presidential election. -
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So we will build a beautiful country,
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where being human is above all else,
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and I hope very much that
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our children, will be able to grow up happy
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and without fear.
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We asked Svetlana
what word has supported her most, -
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as she continues her never-ending battle.
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It's the word "trust."
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"Trust."
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Because we want to build our country,
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the new Belarus,
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based on trust in the people,
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on trust in the authorities,
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and on trust in the state.
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What do you most want to do right now?
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Go back to Belarus and hug my husband.
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Trust