
Orii Koji is a traditional craftsman who uses a special technique to develop unique colors on copper panels less than 1mm thick. He talks about what goes into creating beautiful copperware.
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"Direct Talk"
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Our guest today is Orii Koji,
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a traditional craftsman who specializes in coloring copperware.
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He's developed a series of innovative original coloring techniques.
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He's breathed new life into the world of traditional crafts.
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Orii's exquisite and unique colors are highly acclaimed
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not only in Japan but also overseas.
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His work is turning heads around the world.
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There's no shortage of applicants from across Japan
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who are interested in working with Orii's company.
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He shares the story behind his vibrant palette of colors.
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The Alchemist of Copper Coloring
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I developed a one-of-a-kind technique that no one else could do.
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And we began to apply that to interior design, architecture,
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and a variety of other areas in the hopes of tapping into new markets.
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Takaoka City in Toyama Prefecture
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has a centuries-old tradition of copperware making.
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Buddhist statues, temple bells,
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Buddhist altar fittings...
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Takaoka copperware accounts for about 90% of
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all domestic copper production
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and is highly regarded worldwide.
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Orii's workshop is situated in this storied metalworking district.
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They specialize in coloring copper plates.
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We give Takaoka copperware its color
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by using chemicals and heat to create a chemical reaction
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that causes color to emerge on the surface of the copper.
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Because it's a chemical reaction,
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you get patterns that are completely unique.
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Also, the reaction time varies from summer to winter,
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so it's difficult to control.
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Orii is a third-generation craftsman
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who now heads the copper coloring company started by his grandfather.
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Their past work includes making lamp posts for the Imperial Palace.
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They had an established reputation...
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but Orii initially chose not to take over the family business,
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and instead found a job at a tech company in Tokyo.
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The work suited him well, and he lived a comfortable life. However...
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Around that time in my life, my uncle said to me,
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"If you don't take over the family business,
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Orii Coloring Company will be no more."
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"Are you sure that you're OK with that?"
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That's what he asked me.
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I was 26 when I made the decision to return to Toyama.
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They say the economic bubble burst around 1991, '92.
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But year-on-year sales for our company hadn't gone down that much up
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until around 1996, when I returned.
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So I felt like I'd come back at a good time.
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But then,
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'96, '97, '98, '99...
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we entered a long period of time
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where our company sales declined dramatically.
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A lot of our subcontracting jobs were disappearing rapidly,
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and I started to realize that
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instead of just relying on intermediaries for all of our jobs
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as we had been,
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we had to now start manufacturing and selling our own original products.
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Upon returning to the family business,
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Orii first focused on honing his skill
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at traditional Takaoka coloring techniques.
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This is one of those methods, called "nuka-yaki."
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"Nuka" means "rice bran,"
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which is the thin outer layer of the rice grain.
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Sometimes it refers to powdered rice germ.
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Rice bran is mixed with salt and sulfur.
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After adding water,
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the mixture is applied to the copper and fired at a high temperature.
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Then, a brush coated in an oxidizing agent such as vinegar
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is used to polish the surface of the copper.
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This is the result.
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The salt and other components in the bran
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react with the copper when heated,
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producing different shades of color and a unique pattern.
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Techniques such as these
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have been guarded and passed down for generations.
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But Orii began to realize that tradition alone would not be enough.
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Unless we take these crafts into new fields
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and develop new sales channels,
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I don't think we'll be able to preserve traditional crafts,
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like the techniques of Takaoka copperware.
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So because of that, I started wanting to try something new.
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Orii began to work on developing new coloring techniques.
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Instead of coloring vases and other decorative objects,
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he tried coloring thin copper plates
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in the hopes of bringing their craft to a wider market.
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But it was easier said than done.
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The thin copper plates could not withstand the heat required
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in the traditional coloring process, and would end up warped.
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I had no idea what I was doing.
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So I started trying different things
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using different chemicals and adjusting the temperature.
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For example, I thought it'd be interesting
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to use a mixture of acidic and alkaline chemicals.
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I was totally clueless.
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The mixture in the beaker started bubbling
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and smoke filled the entire workshop.
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It was a disaster.
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But through lots of trial and error,
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I gradually gained experience,
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and I started getting a sense of how the color would change
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depending on the concentration of chemicals
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or minute differences in temperature.
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As I repeated the process, one day, by accident,
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I created a complex texture of intertwining colors.
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One year into his experiments,
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Orii discovered a way to produce new colors on thin copper plates.
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This is the color I created completely by chance on a thin plate.
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I named it "Hanmon Kujaku."
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Think of this copper plate as a canvas.
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Here, you can find green, purple, brownish hues, reddish hues...
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like the feathers of a peacock.
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Orii was confident that
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this color would open up a new world of possibilities for the company.
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I thought it'd be cool if we made a table out of the material.
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That's not traditional Takaoka copperware,
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but I wanted to adapt the techniques
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in a way that people could use in their daily lives.
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Here's the prototype table that Orii created.
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It was an innovative concept that
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brought Takaoka copperware into the world of interior design.
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But he was met with fierce opposition
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from the company's veteran craftsman.
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Our artisan who specialized in coloring cast copperware said to me,
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"I color Takaoka copperware."
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"That's why I'm here."
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"Listen young man, this new direction you're taking,
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your plan to focus on making and selling originals."
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"I just can't go along with that."
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Our veteran artisan quit.
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And then our clients started to worry, they grew concerned.
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"Sonny boy over at Orii's came back to the family business
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and is trying to do new things,
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and their artisan has quit."
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"Does he really think he's going to be able to save the company?"
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I heard things like that.
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But actually, those kinds of comments got me fired up.
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Orii's quest for new colors and textures continued.
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I create this artificial patina, this copper rust,
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and then I expose it to ammonia.
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As soon as I open this, it'll turn cobalt blue.
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Orii honed this technique and was eventually able to create this.
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A color he calls "Orii Blue."
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The patina is not monochromatic.
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As you can see, there are some black in there,
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some brown, some light blue.
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It's a complex, spotted pattern.
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The blue coloring is different from the traditional technique
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used for Takaoka copperware vessels, jars, and so on.
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And the intricate patterns are distinct
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from the traditional bronze color.
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I think that gives them a whole new look.
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I looked at this copper plate as a big canvas
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and came up with a new way to develop that patina, that copper rust.
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And then, I established a process for
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using ammonia to generate a cobalt blue patina on a large surface.
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This is a one-of-a-kind technique that I developed,
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and that finish is something only I could achieve.
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So I realized this could be the way
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we get more people interested in our work.
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Orii began using this technique to apply color to clocks, vases,
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and other familiar home decor items.
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And because Orii's copper plates were highly adaptable,
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they began to be used as decorations in museums
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and as architectural materials in luxury hotels
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and commercial facilities.
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Metal castings are heavy,
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and they're over five millimeters thick.
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So a panel a meter or two long weighs hundreds of kilograms.
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It'd be difficult to decorate with that.
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But my panels were eight-tenths of a millimeter thick,
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so even at a meter or two in length,
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they weigh just 14 kilograms each.
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So they're lightweight and have this never-before-seen patina.
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And they're easy to install.
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I think that's why people started using them as architectural materials.
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Now, young artisans from all around Japan are knocking at Orii's door.
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Twelve years ago, his company had just five employees.
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Today, there are 16.
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And while the average age of artisans industrywide is about 63,
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the average age at Orii's factory is 35.
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The ideas and designs proposed by these young artisans
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have led to new items such as accessories and candleholders.
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It's so much fun every day. I'm just eager to get to work.
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Even if I fail at something I want to try harder.
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And I'm filled with this desire to try different things.
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We're working to draw more people from all over to Takaoka.
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To give Takaoka a boost and help the copperware industry grow.
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I think being a craftsperson should be a gainful vocation
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and something to aspire to.
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It has to become a cool, lively, gainful profession.
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Otherwise, young people aren't going to want to get into it,
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and no one is going to want to carry on the traditions.
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Orii has also set his sights on the international market.
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In recent years, he's been setting up booths at overseas trade fairs.
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His wares are attracting attention in Europe and other parts of Asia.
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He's also gotten into fashion.
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He collaborates with designers
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to create products that showcase his unique colors.
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Most people aren't aware that
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copper can be given dozens of different colors.
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I get people abroad asking me, "What is this material?"
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"These reds and browns and other colors, what's the material?"
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So in that sense, awareness is still low,
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which means there's a business opportunity for us.
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It might take 5, 10, even 50 years,
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but I want people to know that these copper patterns
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were created in Takaoka, in Toyama, Japan.
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My hope is that our craft becomes a part of people's daily lives
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around the world.
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(Do you have any words to live by?)
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"Better to be the beak of a rooster than the rump of a bull."
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In other words,
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it's far better to be a leader in a small, limited sphere of influence
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than it is to be a subordinate in a large group or organization.
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That's what this saying expresses.
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I myself was once part of a large organization.
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In a situation like that,
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you're at the bottom of the ladder, doing routine tasks.
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I'd much rather be the big fish in a little pond,
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constantly attempting new things.
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That's the ideal for me,
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and it's been something I've aspired to since I was little.
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So I live by these words.