
Japan is rich in water, and this vital resource has shaped Japanese culture and everyday life. The flow of water and sparkling refraction of light has always been a source of inspiration, and still sparks creative modern designs. Our guest is designer Tatsuno Shizuka explores fresh, appealing products with a water theme. Water in architecture, and revolutionary water technology. Discover the potential for designs which connect water, people and the environment.
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Japan is a nation rich in water, a precious resource which has shaped Japanese culture and lifestyles.
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The array of beautiful phenomena water creates is an endless source of inspiration that influences designs today.
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Explore the world of water and natural aesthetics.
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Discover designs that weave water into a new future.
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Today's guest is designer Tatsuno Shizuka.
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Her product-centric design work is breathing new life into traditional crafts...
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and turning heads both in Japan and around the world.
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Hello. Welcome to Design Talks Plus, I'm, Andrea Pompilio.
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Hi, I'm Shaula.
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So our topic this time is "water."
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Water... definitely one of the most important resources we have.
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Today, apart from re-visiting our awareness, we'll explore its possibilities through design.
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Tatsuno-san, welcome.
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Our topic this time is "water."
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Does this mean that you've done some design work on the subject?
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Can you tell us about that?
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Sure.
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I never made a conscious decision to work with water specifically.
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But one day I realized I'd been making all sorts of water-related products.
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That inspired me to organize a solo exhibition with water as its theme.
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Interesting.
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Tatsuno's latest exhibition took place in Oi, Tokyo.
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It's a downtown neighborhood near Tokyo Bay.
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Water is a prominent presence throughout the area, including at shrines dedicated to water deities.
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This relationship made it the perfect home for an exhibition themed around Tatsuno's "water" designs.
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Tatsuno was first drawn to the beauty of water as a material.
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Water is translucent.
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It flows, and it also reflects light.
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I realized that as a physical material, water is very appealing.
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And of course water is a vital resource for human life.
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I was drawn to it for a whole variety of reasons.
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This piece is made from hand-blown glass.
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It was designed around an abiding love for the beauty of water.
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I want people to place it by their window where it will catch and reflect light from outside.
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The surface will react to a breeze.
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The water becomes a link between inside and outside.
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I feel that we often take water for granted.
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We often don't really take the time to look at it.
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But by creating a vessel with the sole purpose of showcasing water, I'm hoping people will rediscover the beauty it has to offer.
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This is a wooden mobile.
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The design uses "kumiko," a traditional Japanese woodworking technique that uses no nails and is often seen in shoji paper screens.
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The inspiration came from ripples on the surface of water.
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Ripples move in a set rhythm.
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But at the same time, they're also quite complex.
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Kumiko is usually a two-dimensional construction.
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Here, each slat is positioned 0.5 degrees from its neighbor, creating a slight curve.
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As it rotates, the delicate wooden slats reveal subtle patterns of light and shadow.
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Similar to the captivating ripples on the surface of water.
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Other products focus on the flavor of water.
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A water carafe made in collaboration with an Okayama bizen-ware pottery.
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People say that if you pour water into bizen-ware and leave it overnight, the flavor of the water mellows.
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I was fascinated by the power of ceramics to change water.
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So the idea of the carafe is to fill it up with water and leave it by your bedside.
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Then you wake up to better-tasting water.
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Andy and Shaula explore Tatsuno's revelatory designs back in the studio.
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So you've always been drawn to water in one guise or another.
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Definitely.
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Japan is lucky to have abundant water.
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The quiet patter of light rain is so soothing.
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It changes the atmosphere.
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There's so many ways to experience water in this country.
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Especially if you grow up here.
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We have your water vessel in the studio today.
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It's beautiful.
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Isn't it?
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The idea of a glass vessel only for water feels very Japanese to me.
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So, the brand that made this works towards the concept of bringing Japanese craftsmanship to a global audience.
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We got talking about designing an item that could help open people's minds.
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That was how the idea first started.
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I suddenly had this memory from way back in my childhood.
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My mother would always fill this glass flowerpot with water and put it by the window.
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Then she would admire the light refractions that played across the ceiling and over the floor.
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She would do this every day.
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The strength of the light and the way it shimmered as the water moved - it all came back to me as we were talking.
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I can imagine - I think most of us had a similar experience as children, right?
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Exactly.
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Finding beauty in familiar things is a wonderful experience.
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Like spotting a flower by the road on your daily commute.
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It gives you such a sense of wellbeing.
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A single change of perspective develops into a recalibration of your worldview.
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I really think that it enriches your world.
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I agree.
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I'm very interested in these items.
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They're stools, but the design focus was the potential of this material.
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I worked with a company that treats stainless steel.
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These were part of a presentation by the firm.
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They usually make the panels for elevator buttons.
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Oh yes.
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Stainless steel is very rigid and difficult to work with, but this company can do astonishing things with this material.
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They do the finishing work?
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Yes, the surface work.
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If you look closely, you can see it's mirrored at the bottom, and then it slowly fades as it goes higher, losing any translucence.
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That's a polishing technique which adds the gradations.
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This one is called "Mist" because of that fogged appearance, and the other is "Rain" for the fine lines...
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- Like falling rain.
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The design was inspired by their techniques.
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And also by water.
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Water again!
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And I didn't even realize!
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A lot of the works on exhibition at the moment are somewhat abstract.
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I took what I found particularly beautiful from a single phenomenon and then worked it into an abstract piece.
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It has more breadth that way, and leaves room for the user to find their own connections.
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I see, yes.
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This carafe is wonderful too.
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Oh, and it's full.
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Yes.
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May I?
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- What a great sound!
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- Sound really matters, doesn't it?
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It's just water, no alcohol!
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And it's delicious.
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It feels smoother.
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It does - I wonder why.
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It's fascinating.
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And the shape really showcases the artisan's abilities.
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Yes, it does.
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Creating this shape on a wheel takes an enormous amount of skill.
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I see.
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And the cup is the perfect accent when it's closed.
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Isn't it?
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It really is. A real testament to Japanese craftsmanship.
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Quite a collaboration.
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What initially drew you to traditional crafts and techniques?
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Was it one thing in particular?
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So, I actually studied at a university in the UK.
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But before I started my studies there, people told me that I'd need to be able to talk about Japan.
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I'm sure.
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Right!
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So I began learning the Way of Tea, and other aspects of Japanese culture.
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And actually living abroad gave me a new appreciation of Japanese craftsmanship.
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Like the incredible precision required for the techniques, and how seriously artisans take their craft.
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It's a new perspective.
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- You found new beauty in it.
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That's right.
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And at the same time, I heard about so many crafts dying out because there was nobody studying under these master artisans.
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So I thought I'd go into design and work with these crafts.
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Now let's look at water in spatial design.
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The city of Kanazawa in Ishikawa prefecture lies on Japan's west coast.
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It has a long history and deep-rooted culture.
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It was the birthplace of Buddhist philosopher D. T. Suzuki.
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He spent his life studying Zen Buddhism, and also spent time in the US.
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He's credited for having introduced Zen and Eastern philosophy in English to a Western audience.
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Today, a museum showcases Suzuki's ideas and life.
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It was designed by international architect Taniguchi Yoshio.
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The garden space was built around a camphor tree from near Suzuki's childhood home.
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The layout allows visitors to explore the space while pursuing their own thoughts and ideas.
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Visitors emerge from the corridors to find this water garden.
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The geometric structure mirrored in the water invites visitors to the Contemplative Space.
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Director Kimura Sensho is also a Buddhist priest and scholar.
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He says the gardens and space reflect the spirit of D. T. Suzuki.
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Quiet, serene. D. T. Suzuki
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This space is empty.
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If we filled it with exhibits,
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Large, small.
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We'd like people to experience
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Water rippling in serenity.
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Gazing across the surface opens up a dialogue with nature.
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Water always finds its own level.
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It changes its form to fit
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Without our interference, water
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Nothing else is natural.
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Even the slightest breeze creates ripples, accentuating the flow of time.
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A water mirror that reflects the natural world exactly as it is.
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It only shows us what's there.
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In fall, we seek out the crimson
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But water shows everything.
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I feel it's a true representation
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Buddhism isn't about
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It isn't about categorization.
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We could all learn new ways
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I'd love to visit!
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Definitely.
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Especially that comment about seeking control...
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Yes.
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It made me reexamine my own thoughts on that.
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What a fascinating space.
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Thought-provoking.
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That was such an enlightening piece of wisdom!
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Wasn't it?
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The idea of loving each season just as it is, without trying to control or focus too tightly on any one particular aspect of its beauty.
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Listening to him talk, I felt the space emanated such a strong love for water and the natural world.
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Something we can all share, whatever our background or culture.
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Absolutely.
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Water really is universal.
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And when we find ways to keep it close to us, to make it a part of our own spaces, I think it has the potential to inspire us in all kinds of ways.
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A vital part of life, in every way.
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You were saying earlier that you learned the Way of Tea before university in the UK.
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I did.
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I've been studying it for nearly 20 years now.
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So you kept it up?
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I did, yes.
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And this is something that connects back to our earlier conversation.
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The tea ceremony is very much about total dedication to the fleeting moment.
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Not trying to control or hold it.
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There's a very strong thread of Zen philosophy in the Way of Tea.
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For one thing, it requires a pot of boiling water in the room.
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The very sound of the water as it heats has a name.
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It's called "shofu," or "wind in the pines."
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The sound of boiling?
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Interesting!
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It's a soft sshhhh sound, and part of the ceremony is noticing and enjoying the moment it happens.
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Truly living in the moment.
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Exactly.
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We use both hot and cold water for tea ceremonies.
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Did you know that they actually sound different when they're poured?
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Really?
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It's subtle, but noticeable.
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I really enjoy honing my senses to try and pick up on these small moments and changes.
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It's the perfect setting to do that.
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I had no idea, how interesting!
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I really do feel an affinity with that idea of relinquishing control.
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I think it's a very important concept.
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Recently, I've also started making an artwork around the idea.
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An artwork, not a product?
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Yes.
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I'm using natural plant dyes.
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I drop the colors into candy to create various sculptures.
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Both the candy and the plants change color over time.
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So each time you see them, it's a unique experience that can't ever be replicated.
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Something that will never happen again.
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Right.
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I wanted to create something that allowed me to celebrate fleeting moments like that.
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And designing all of these products has really awoken a desire to dive a little deeper and explore those worlds further.
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So you can imagine why the curator's interview really resonated with me!
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Absolutely.
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Finally, a high-tech water infrastructure design.
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Water is a vital resource.
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One new design is looking to revolutionize our water infrastructure.
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The world's smallest portable water recycling plant.
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It automatically treats over 98% of all household wastewater on the spot so the water can be instantly reused.
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It's a truly groundbreaking water system.
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It was developed by Maeda Yosuke who began researching water treatment in high school.
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After studying urban infrastructure at university, he established his own startup.
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It is predicted that by 2030, 40% of the world's population won't have enough water - a problem Maeda is trying to solve.
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The amount of water the
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There's not enough water.
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Let's make water infrastructure
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The system is simple.
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It needs only a water tank and a shower to function.
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Water dirtied by soap or detergent is checked for contaminants by sensors and an AI in real time.
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The water is automatically run through several advanced filters, treated with chlorine, and UV sterilized to produce clean, potable water.
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Finally, the water returns to the tank, ready to be reused.
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Maeda designed his system around ease-of-use.
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He hopes to create a new type of water infrastructure that's both small and decentralized.
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Humans have never really designed
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We've just pushed it out of sight.
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We don't know where our water
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I want our work to bring
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Unlike large purification systems, no extra plumbing is needed.
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It can be deployed quickly and affordably anywhere with access to electricity, including remote areas and developing regions.
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For disaster-prone Japan, water is often a key challenge in evacuation centers.
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Water infrastructure is often the last to be restored.
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Maeda has distributed his product to such centers around Japan.
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The 2018 floods had people enduring
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Disasters cause breakages in the
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They may have drinking water.
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But they have no water for
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But there's water in the local
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So I asked, why not use
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They said there's no privacy
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Or the water is weeks old
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Water's right there but it won't
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Even when the water's there.
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The same water recycling technology has applications for public hygiene during the pandemic.
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It was used to build hand-washing stands with integrated smartphone sterilization slots.
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A redesign of our relationship with water and the environment promises a bright future for water infrastructure.
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At the heart of the water problem...
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...is that people don't think we can
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Every home should be
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That's the world we're building.
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That's our outlook on nature.
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So we can recycle the same water within a single home.
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An incredible system.
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Japan is rich in water resources, so I think a lot of us here flush the toilet more than we need to, or let the tap run a little.
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It's easy to be wasteful, isn't it?
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Definitely.
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I think that in Japan, we hear the word "recycling," and the first thing we all think of is plastic, or aluminum cans.
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Recycling for us is synonymous with trash.
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But of course, water needs to be recycled too.
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It's a very simple realization, but an important one.
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I agree.
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It's truly revolutionary.
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One thing that really impresses me is the sheer energy it takes for someone to develop and produce something like that.
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Extraordinary.
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It does give me hope for Japan's future.
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Yes, I think this could play a key role in futures everywhere - not just Japan.
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It's a global problem, after all.
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From summer droughts to climate change.
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There are all sorts of factors causing us to lose our water resources fast.
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I think the global scale drives home just how vital a resource water is.
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Absolutely.
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We've explored a lot of different ideas through the lens of design today.
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What did you think of this topic?
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It's given me a new appreciation for just how much there is to explore when it comes to water and design.
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I know I'll be thinking about our discussion over the next few days.
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There are so many potential facets to discover.
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How it enriches our emotional lives, for example.
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How it's a vital part of our survival.
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I've been reminded about how much value there is in having an understanding of water.
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We really did cover some great topics today!
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I'm so glad!
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I think it's really wonderful to have an opportunity to explore a topic in such depth.
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I've been inspired to renew my focus on water!
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We look forward to seeing how the field plays out into the future, and to seeing more of your work!
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It's been a wonderful discussion today, thank you.
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- Thank you.
- Thank you.