
Learn about Japanese home cooking with Master Chef Saito, based on traditional Japanese cooking techniques! Featured recipes: (1) Savory Simmered White Fish (2) Salad with Double Sesame Dressing.
The recipes are available at https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/dining/20230221/2019345/.
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Dining with the Chef!
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Hi everyone, and welcome to Dining with the Chef.
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I'm your host, Yu Hayami and here is our wonderful Chef Saito.
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Hello Yu. Hello everyone.
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So Chef, what are you going to teach us today?
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Today, simmered "kinmedai."
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Wow, "kinmedai." That's red seabream.
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It's a white fish treasured in Japan for its subtle deep flavor.
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Simmered "kinmedai" is made with the base of soy sauce, sake, and sugar.
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Yes, it's very popular.
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Right, I just remember that has a lot of difficult techniques, right?
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To make it perfect.
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Yeah, but not hard.
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Really?
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The secret is, short simmer.
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- Ah.
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Really.
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And what else are we making today?
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Salad with "mizuna" and "chikuwa."
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"Chikuwa" is the popular Japanese food made from ground fish.
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Yes. Very delicious.
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Well, I can't wait.
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Chef, shall we?
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Yes, Okay. Let's get started.
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Japan is known for its bountiful fresh and delicious ingredients.
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Amazing!
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Japanese cuisine, guided by traditional culture that you will be able to prepare at home.
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Perfect.
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Today, Simmered "kinmedai" and "chikuwa" Salad with Sesame Dressing.
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Let's join Yu Hayami and become Chef Saito's chef apprentices.
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Here's our Master Chef, Mr. Tatsuo Saito!
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Always fun with the Chef!
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Authentic Japanese cooking.
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Okay, here's what's cooking today.
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Using lots of fresh ginger is the key to this dish.
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It adds a refreshing flavor to the sweet and savory sauce.
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The "gobo," burdock root is important for simmering the "kinmedai" to perfection.
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So first we are going prepare the "kinmedai."
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Right.
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So chef, I would really like to know how to make this dish myself.
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Okay, please watch.
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- Okay.
- Okay. Watch watch watch... -
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Don't miss it.
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I won't miss it.
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Today we use "kinmedai" fillet.
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Yes, I love the red color of the skin. It's very festive.
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Red is an auspicious color in Japan,
so it's a popular festive dish. -
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It's also served as a set meal
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It's a fatty fish, perfect for simmering.
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Yes.
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You can also use cod, flounder,
or another white fish. -
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You'll be able to make
delicious simmered fish. -
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Let's prepare for simmered fish.
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Okay.
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This is very important.
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- First, small cuts into the skin.
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Make three or four diagonal incisions, about one centimeter deep.
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The skin is soft and tends to shrink and tear when heated.
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The incisions will prevent this from happening.
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Making deep incisions will prevent
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It also reduces the cooking time
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- So this is a crucial step.
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Now it's your turn, Yu.
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Here we go.
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Press down, and carefully
and make three or four deep slits. -
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Hey I can do this.
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Here is our Chef's Technique!
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Once you've slit the skin, clean the fish with a technique called "shimofuri" or scalding.
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Boil a pot of water.
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Lower the fish into the boiling water.
See how the surface turns white? -
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Remove immediately and
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- Oh, that's it?
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Why is "shimofuri" so important?
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This is to removes any impurities
on the surface. -
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Scalding the surface gets rid of any impurities and fishy smell.
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If you skip this step, all the impurities
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You want to keep it free from any
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But overcooking ruins the umami,
so shock it in ice water. -
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Clean the fish in ice water.
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Scalding hardens the fish scales, blood, and other impurities, making them easier to remove.
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This brings out the vivid red color and removes unwanted flavors, making the simmered fish, incredibly tasty.
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Japanese cuisine emphasizes
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The umami lies between the skin and meat.
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Remove all the impurities.
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Yeah, I see that. Wow... good thing we cleaned it up.
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It's not a difficult technique.
Just work carefully, step by step. -
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If you prep properly, the simmered fish
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Pat dry.
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Okay. So now it's my turn.
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Gently lower the "kinmedai" into boiling water.
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And then, it was really just for a few seconds.
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One, two, three?
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Remove as soon as the surface turns white, and plunge into ice water to stop the cooking.
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Then, thoroughly clean.
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Wow, I'm surprised there are so many scales left.
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- You don't want scales in your mouth.
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After cleaning, be sure to pat dry.
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Now it's ready to be simmered in yummy broth.
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But before that, prep the "gobo" burdock root.
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It will help boost the flavor of the simmered fish.
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"Gobo" is often used in Japanese cuisine.
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It's a root vegetable with a distinct flavor, aroma, and crunchy texture.
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Shredded and braised in soy sauce and sugar, it makes a delicious dish called "kinpiragobo."
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Wash well and peel before cutting the "gobo" into lengths to fit into the pot.
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Then, cut lengthwise, into four to six equal pieces.
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Soak in water to prevent discoloring, then drain and pat dry.
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If you don't have any "gobo," you can use Japanese leek or carrots.
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Next, prep the all-important ginger.
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This time we're cutting it in two different ways.
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The thin slices, will be used to simmer with the fish and add a refreshing flavor to the sauce.
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The finely shredded ginger will be used as both a garnish and a condiment.
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It's easier to cut into shreds, if you cut along the grain.
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Okay, what's next?
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Let's make the simmered broth.
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Add water, sake, sugar, "mirin," and soy sauce to the pot,
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place over medium heat and bring to a boil.
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- No "katsuobushi," no bonito.
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We want to simmer the fish in its
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Do we let this boil, Chef?
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Yes, boiling integrates the flavors
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- Okay, you see the boiling.
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So add the ginger and burdock root.
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Here is our Chef's Technique!
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Be careful how you place the "gobo" in the pot.
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Spread the "gobo" over the bottom of the pot.
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The "gobo" forms a cushion between the fish
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It falls apart, okay.
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If you place the fish directly into the pot, it will move around and crumble while simmering.
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The "gobo" cushions the impact and keeps the fish from falling apart.
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The broth has cooled slightly, so return
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If you add the fish too soon, the sauce will smell fishy.
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So, wait for the sauce to boil first.
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If you ignore this rule,
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It's come to a boil.
So add the fish, skin side up. -
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Place the "kinmedai," skin-side up, on top of the "gobo."
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You don't need to immerse the fish in the savory broth.
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Like this.
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Wow, it fits perfectly.
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Let it float on top. Then cover
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Ah then you add a sort of paper lid.
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Cut holes in a sheet of parchment paper, and place over the fish to serve as a drop lid.
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This will cause the steam from the sauce, to circulate and cook the "kinmedai,"
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while allowing the sauce to seep into the "gobo."
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Now it's your turn, Yu.
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So, do I make it into one layer?
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- Yes, like a mattress.
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Just so that there is like a layer for the fish to sleep on.
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- Okay?
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You know, I don't know why I don't make this at home.
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I just remember simmered "kinmedai" to be very difficult.
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But today, we haven't done anything super hard.
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Very easy but we have many techniques.
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I see.
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So, we are going to try to fit fish in there.
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Oh, like so, huh.
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- It looks so good. So pretty in red.
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Cover with the paper drop lid and simmer over medium heat for seven to eight minutes.
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Never touch!
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- Never touch?
- Never touch. -
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Okay.
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- I'm not touching the fish.
- Why you touch the fish? -
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- No, I'm just touching the lid.
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- No problem. Don't worry.
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Hahahaha I'm so worried.
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If you poke it, it'll fall apart.
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I told you.
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That's why don't touch the fish.
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We're cooking the fish in the steam
from the sauce, rather than boiling it. -
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So, the fish is tender and moist.
The idea is to eat it with the sauce. -
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Okay. That makes sense.
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- Okay?
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- Okay. Let's check.
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- Like this.
- Oh. -
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After about five minutes, check the pot and remove any surface residue.
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Replace the drop lid and simmer for two more minutes.
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After two minutes.
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Okay.
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- Now spoon broth on top.
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- Tilt the pot slightly.
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And scoop up the sauce.
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Ah...
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On top.
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The white fish is soaking up the flavor
and color of the sauce. -
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It's infused with the flavor and aroma
of the sauce and "gobo" as it steams. -
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This is for fish.
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Spooning the sauce over the fish, infuses it with the flavor and aroma of the sweetened soy sauce, "gobo," and ginger.
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So why don't we turn the fish around?
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No, no, no! No turn.
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- It'll fall apart!
- I see. -
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Breaks the fish. I see.
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Just drizzle with sauce.
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The sauce thickens while simmering, so when you drizzle it over the fish, it makes the skin glisten.
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And that makes it very nice glaze.
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Glossy.
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- Is it good?
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Okay chef, I'm going to check mine.
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Oh, that looks good.
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If you master the basic techniques,
you can make delicious Japanese food -
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- It's not that complicated.
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And because we are putting the soy glaze over it, the red has gotten redder.
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Very nice.
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Is it Okay?
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Arrange to serve.
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Already?
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Already.
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- That's so fast.
- That's it. No more. -
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What? I thought this is taking hours.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Let's take out the fish.
You can touch it now. -
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Uh.
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Cut the "gobo."
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Oh... it's soaked up all the best parts.
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Yeah.
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Cut the flavorful "gobo" into bite-size pieces.
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Plate the "gobo" and "kinmedai."
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First the fish.
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And last but not least, the sauce.
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The fish is to be eaten with sauce,
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Oh, that looks so good.
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It looks nicer with plenty of sauce.
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So, I will arrange to serve as well.
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So, I'm going to start with the big fish.
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Oh, I just hope it doesn't fall apart.
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Oh.
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I wish I could use all the ginger in here too.
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Yeah, it's okay.
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Really?
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Yeah, you like it?
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I think so.
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- Because it's... that soaked up all the goodness too, right?
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I'm gonna add this.
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Oh, it's good.
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The ginger tastes good, too.
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I think so.
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No problem.
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- And then I add this very end.
- No no no no not yet. -
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- Oh, not yet.
- The sauce. -
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Oh, of course.
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And then we put in a lot of broth.
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A lot of broth.
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From the top, oh that looks so good.
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Finally, garnish with shredded ginger.
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And ginger topping.
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Nice.
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Nice accent.
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Wow, that was fun, Chef Saito. I learned so much.
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Chef Saito's dish is now ready to serve.
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It's beautiful.
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Thank you.
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And finished!
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Next is a "chikuwa" and "mizuna" salad with a sesame dressing.
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So, for our second dish, we are making salad with "chikuwa."
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"Chikuwa" is the very popular ingredient in Japan and we see in many different types of dishes.
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It is.
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So "chikuwa" is made by mixing ground white fish with salt.
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Then spreading the paste around a rod and cooking it until the surface turns golden brown.
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It's delicious as-is, and goes well
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"Chikuwa" stuffed with cucumber is
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I love that.
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And cheese.
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- It's a classic appetizer.
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I like to, you know, look for the "chikuwa" in "oden" which is nicely hot simmered broth that we eat during the wintertime.
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That's very good too.
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And also, "isobeage."
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Yes, "isobeage" is deep fried "chikuwa" with "aonori," seaweed mixed into the butter.
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It's a "bento" staple and common topping for "udon."
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"Chikuwa" is very familiar part of everyday life in Japan.
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Yes, now you can buy that overseas too.
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Yes.
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If you see it, please try it.
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That's right.
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Shall we start?
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Yes, right. First cut the "chikuwa."
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Cut the "chikuwa" into five milimeter thick slices.
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Okay, then fry "chikuwa."
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Brown a little for better flavor.
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With butter?
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Butter.
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Wow, how decadent.
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Heat the pan and melt the butter to sauté the "chikuwa."
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"Chikuwa."
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Hmm, that smells good.
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- See how they're lightly browned?
- Yes. -
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Now add the soy sauce.
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Oh...
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Soy sauce and butter... good!
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Oh, that's just gonna be so good.
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Okay.
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Once it's browned and fragrant, remove and set aside to cool.
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Today, we're going to use "mizuna," a Japanese mustard green.
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"Mizuna" is a Kyoto heritage vegetable.
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It has a crunchy texture and a pleasantly bitter flavor.
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It's a popular ingredient in both salads and "nabe" hotpots.
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If you can't get hold of "mizuna," substitute any leafy green with a crunchy texture.
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Cut the "mizuna" into three to four centimeter pieces.
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Okay. Let's make the dressing.
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Today lots of sesames!
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Use a bowl to combine the sesame paste, ground sesame, sugar, rice vinegar, "usukuchi" soy sauce, and salt.
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Mix together.
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That looks so good.
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And the sesame smell is just so inviting.
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Add the cooled "chikuwa" to the sesame dressing, together with the "mizuna," and toss together.
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Crisp lettuce or some other fresh green
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Just toss together.
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Okay. Arrange to serve.
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Wow, look at that. Beautiful.
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Create a balanced mound on the plate.
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- Wow, look so pretty.
- Thank you. -
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Okay.
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And it's...
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Finished!
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Both dishes are ready to serve.
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Now, time to eat.
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Chef Saito, I am so thankful that you taught me how to make this today.
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I've always wanted to learn, but I thought it was much more difficult.
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Yeah.
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But the way it's turned out, it looks beautifully presented.
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I learned so much today.
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- Nothing super difficult.
- Mm-hmm. -
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Quite simple technique.
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However, you have to take a lot of care in what you make.
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Exactly.
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Well, it smells delicious. May I try?
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Yeah, please.
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Okay.
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And a little bit of, um...
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- Not yet.
- No? Okay. -
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First, without the ginger.
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- Yes, I'm just going to try it as is.
- Just fish. -
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Okay.
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Mm.
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I love it.
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It's not too sweet. Oh, it's just...
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It has that sweet and savory taste, and the fish is cooked perfectly.
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So perfectly.
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That's amazing.
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Try it as it is, then with ginger,
and then try the "gobo." -
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You can enjoy simmered fish
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Now, May I add the ginger?
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- Please add the ginger.
- Okay. -
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Mmm!
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Oh, wow.
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It's nice accent ginger.
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It gives it a little bit of a kick because it's spicy and it complements the sauce more.
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It transforms the flavor.
That's the fun of this dish. -
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And the complexity of the broth, it was made with very simple ingredients,
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but by adding the ginger and also the burdock root, it has a very deep flavor.
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Now I'm going to try it with the burdock.
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- Burdock.
- Okay. -
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Wow.
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That is so good.
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The burdock has soaked up all the wonderful broth flavor.
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And also, it has that hint of the broth from the fish.
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So, if we can't find Burdock, you said that we can use other vegetables like carrots and...
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Carrots, and also onion. Just onion, the long onion.
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Sometimes potatoes... it's okay, no problem.
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- Potatoes?
- Potatoes also. -
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Oh, that's interesting. Wow.
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That would be good with potatoes.
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This is really nice.
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Oh, the salad.
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Look how beautiful it is.
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You know how the "chikuwa" is browned a little bit.
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Wow.
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And I love the green of the "mizuna."
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Mm!
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Wow, Chef. I love how it has a kick from the vinegar.
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And I love the combination because this is sweet,
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and of course, it's savory too but this vinaigrette actually sort of balances out the sweetness of fish.
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The two contrasting flavors
work well together. -
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Yes, it's really nice.
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It's a good pairing.
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Making the most of the ingredients is
the key to cooking Japanese food. -
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You need to draw out the umami of each.
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That sounds complicated,
but it's actually quite easy. -
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It was... no, I feel like I can make it tonight if I really wanted to.
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Mastering the basic techniques will make
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Japanese food isn't that difficult,
so do try making it at home. Have fun! -
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Well, Chef, thank you so much for teaching us today.
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Yeah. Thank you for joining me.
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Yes. And, Chef, please have some too.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Let's review today's recipes.
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First, the simmered "kinmedai."
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Making diagonal slits in the skin, makes a big difference, to both the taste and appearance.
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Scald in boiling water, for 3 seconds and then plunge in ice water to clean and remove any impurities.
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Cut the "gobo" to fit the pot, and then cut lengthwise into 4 to 6 pieces.
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Combine the seasonings in the pot and lay the gobo on the bottom.
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Bring to a boil before adding the "kinmedai."
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Cover with a paper, drop lid to steam.
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Make sure not to touch the fish until it's done.
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Plate and drizzle with the flavorful sauce to serve.
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Next the "chikuwa" and "mizuna" Salad with Double Sesame Dressing.
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Cut the "chikuwa" into five millimeter thick slices and sauté in butter and soy sauce.
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Combine the sesame paste, ground sesame, sugar, and rice vinegar, toss the "chikuwa" and "mizuna" and it's done.
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Become a Master of Japanese cuisine at your house!